Wallabies V Ireland, Brisbane
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Juan Cote
Syd Malcolm (24)
Deans said today TPN is due to play club rugby over the next two weekends and see how he goes. Deans also said booked for surgery on the 22 July???
I suppose TPN is waiting to see if he gets through those two games and make a decision about whether to have surgery or not. Whatever, it is not what you'd call a satisfactory situation.
I suppose TPN is waiting to see if he gets through those two games and make a decision about whether to have surgery or not. Whatever, it is not what you'd call a satisfactory situation.
TheRiddler
Dave Cowper (27)
Dont think anyone else has mentioned it yet but the use of the bench was again very frugal last night. Surely the injection of some fresh legs, alternate plays and passion from the splinters brigade to prove their worth should have been viable options. Mitchell Chapman could surely have added something in place of Mumm/Chisholm? And a 10-15 min cameo from Valentine (even though I am so not a fan of him) could have exposed some holes around the ruck left by tired forwards. What's the point in having a bench if you're not going to use it?
Then again, I'm not a national coach with a great recent track record who's current team is setting the world on fire. Together with Dingo, that makes two of us.
Then again, I'm not a national coach with a great recent track record who's current team is setting the world on fire. Together with Dingo, that makes two of us.
Ash
Michael Lynagh (62)
Actually I agree that he does look fine taking a few steps to find a flat forward runner. Allows the runner to hit the line close to the advantage line and can create gaps for he halfback or his runner. Genia and a few other halfbacks do the same thing.
Last night though Burgess was taking two or sometimes more steps backwards making it hard for the forward runner to get over the advantage line. He needs to take at most one step backwards and normally none.
Reddy!
Bob Davidson (42)
Yeh he definitely wasn't attacking the line, running forward when he made his passes. Even if he does not do this, he was slow doing what he did, and his passing was terrible. Gregan had his detractors, criticising him about his step back out of the ruck and step to the side before passing and sometimes this was warranted. He, however, never got bitched slapped around the ruck from opposition forwards; his passing game was always top notch, clean and infront of the man.
Viking
Mark Ella (57)
I dont think the the step back from the ruck is that bad when used sparingly, but shouldnt be used every single time. Burgess uses it waaaaaaaaaay to much. He should at least halve the amount of times he uses it, and give quick ball most of time especially when we have go-forward and momentum. He really needs to learn to mix up his game.
Scotty
David Codey (61)
It is certainly a better team than we have been putting out. When is Deans going to realise he needs some hard runners in the backs and forwards. I will excuse him in the forwards, because there isn't many options, but the back selection has been poor, and now he has run out of chances to try things before the 3N.
RedsHappy
Tony Shaw (54)
Langthorne, you're not feeling guilty are you for leading the charge sheet against Deans, so now positives must be uncovered on each occasion? ;-)...
Yes, a win. Tick. As a Deans co-prosecutor, I better then add my positives too, only 3:
- Cooper continues to show consistency and regular, quite outstanding moments. His defence, yes, we know of that, but his reward-risk ratio is at least 5 to 1 favourable, which is way above the average such ratio as applies to most other members of the team;
- Pocock ditto Cooper. And he could be captain material soon. Which may well be timely, as objective observers will soon begin to fret re Elsom, unless the Tris bring major improvement in both his play and leadership;
- our defence was (just) solid enough to deny the Irish a try, something the ABs did not achieve against them, despite the ABs overwhelming overall dominance.
naza
Alan Cameron (40)
Enough with this myth. Are you guys actually watching the games ? There's nobody showing up to the ruck ! Our ruck is a disgrace. He has to step into the ruck, fight for the ball, then step out of that quagmire, find a receiver and clear the ball from the ruck. Enough with this ridiculous fictional concept of the halfback passing off the ground in one motion. It has no bearing on reality. Its a friggin' minefield out there, sheer chaos, its a miracle we even get the ball back.
Did you miss Lawrence ruling a Burgess knock on after an Irish player at the ruck stuck his hand out and slapped at the pill ? Every ruck is like that, wait til the Tri-Nations gets going, you ain't seen nothing yet.
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No one shows up to the ruck because the Deans/Crusaders way is commit as few as possible to the breakdown.
That is fine until the other side (ie any side playing Aus with a brain and/or a video tape) attacks and competes at the breakdown.
How many times did our ball bounce out the side and how many times did our ball runners get isolated due to lack of blockers?
Langthorne
Phil Hardcastle (33)
Don't worry, I'm not feeling guilty at all for insisting Robbie Deans should be scrutinised in his performance as Wallabies coach. I just like a challenge...and finding the positives seemed the trickiest option.
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After watching the replays it didn't get any clearer to me at all. We were/are terrible at just about every facet of the play when compared to our NZ and SA protagonists.
It is really quite perplexing how with such a respected coach, a respect that is diminishing very quickly I might add, the basics of the game, attitude and general application are just a myth to most of these guys.
For goodness sakes, you are wearing your country's colors. Shouldn't that be ample motivation to at least have a go.
There were only a small handfull of players on saturday worthy of keeping that honour and I for one will be depressed if an axe is not wielded and soon. Examples must be shown that inconsistency and ineptness at this level is not a condonable trait.
Get with it guys. Deans, show some balls.
Since when did Wallaby selection become a done deal. Every week these guys shold have to fight for their inclusion in the team. I saw far more application and resourcefulness from schoolboys on the weekend that what was shown by these players.
I really don't care for the next test - show some nouse and replace players, let them know their position in the team is not to be taken for granted. We are going to get a right royal roggering anyway. We may as well start now with our tem.
It is really quite perplexing how with such a respected coach, a respect that is diminishing very quickly I might add, the basics of the game, attitude and general application are just a myth to most of these guys.
For goodness sakes, you are wearing your country's colors. Shouldn't that be ample motivation to at least have a go.
There were only a small handfull of players on saturday worthy of keeping that honour and I for one will be depressed if an axe is not wielded and soon. Examples must be shown that inconsistency and ineptness at this level is not a condonable trait.
Get with it guys. Deans, show some balls.
Since when did Wallaby selection become a done deal. Every week these guys shold have to fight for their inclusion in the team. I saw far more application and resourcefulness from schoolboys on the weekend that what was shown by these players.
I really don't care for the next test - show some nouse and replace players, let them know their position in the team is not to be taken for granted. We are going to get a right royal roggering anyway. We may as well start now with our tem.
RedsHappy
Tony Shaw (54)
Phew, thanks, I'm suitably reassured.
HG
Jimmy Flynn (14)
Deans was out watching Ant Finger play on Saturday.
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tranquility
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thats bloody good news HG.
I think QC (Quade Cooper) at 10 is the way fwd but it's not just the defensive hole he's leaving at the moment, he also gave away how many penalties (3?) by memory 2 of which led to points (? not at computer) and missed how many shots at goal (2 or 3?). Things to put against the 5 points he scored solo.
Also - something fucking strange was happening communications wise between him and Burgess. Saw Burgess often looking back trying to spot QC (Quade Cooper) / figure out what was going on. Wonder if Gits was getting in the way as no such problem in test 1 vs Poms when Sookface at 12?
Also - something fucking strange was happening communications wise between him and Burgess. Saw Burgess often looking back trying to spot QC (Quade Cooper) / figure out what was going on. Wonder if Gits was getting in the way as no such problem in test 1 vs Poms when Sookface at 12?
Reddy!
Bob Davidson (42)
The most bizarre situation in the match was when Beale with a clear run to the try line if he maintained his speed and angle, choose to grubber kick it to ... you guessed it! Giteau. Since dishing shit out to Giteau is the flavour of the month, I wonder if Giteau called for that ball?!
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