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John Solomon (38)
The term "friendly" has no place in the lexicon of Test Match Rugby! Every test counts!
Wallabies v France 1st test - Suncorp 7 June
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The term "friendly" has no place in the lexicon of Test Match Rugby! Every test counts!
hahahaha Big man TahDan higher authority on whats what and where people are talking from. When did i suggest that the woes of the last 12 years lay on Deans champ????? No pumping france doesnt tell us much about how the wallabies "will do" under McKenzie but I do believe the last 5 wins and the style of rugby we have played speaks for itself. You were a big fan of JOC (James O'Connor) starting at 10 v the lions I take it?? or players taking the piss out of the jersey and not being disciplined????
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Cyril Towers (30)
Bahahah nah mate, just pointing out a few FACTS that kinda show your comments to be pretty stupid. I noticed you didn't mention any of those FACTS in your reply here. The EOYT was pretty decent, but we looked shit against Scotland and England all the same.
And no, I wasn't a fan of JOC (James O'Connor) getting the role at 10, just like I wasn't much of a fan of Giteau being dropped from the whole team.
All the same, I am over hearing people bag Deans, because it's just Eddie Jones all over again... Too many Aussie rugby fans just have no perspective on the state of the sport in this country and are too willing to pin everything on the national coach, and if we get smashed again in the RC by the Springboks and All Blacks I'll be hearing *deleted* like you talking about how Link is wrecking Australian rugby.
**A bit too much name calling on this thread by a few people today. No more. **
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Darby Loudon (17)
Agreed but some tests count more than others and even though it's a series, people just don't value a series against France than say a Rugby Championship Game.
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Mark Ella (57)
I think too many of those who talk about the tickets being too expensive have forgotten or perhaps never experienced the real thrill of the game. Yes the game quality helps, as does a winning result, but for me going to a test match, or even a club game is about experiencing the game with friends. A test match offers more of an occasion andt so the emotion becomes more intense.
It is about the before and after association with people of like mind and the wanging on and sharing rugby stories and bullshit. Re-living our by-gone days of play and so forth.
This test was the excellent for me in that regard, Australia won playing great rugby (regardless of the opposition quality or effectiveness), the festivities with friends old and new over the three days I spent in Bris. are the key of what made it great.
It is about the before and after association with people of like mind and the wanging on and sharing rugby stories and bullshit. Re-living our by-gone days of play and so forth.
This test was the excellent for me in that regard, Australia won playing great rugby (regardless of the opposition quality or effectiveness), the festivities with friends old and new over the three days I spent in Bris. are the key of what made it great.
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Mark Ella (57)
As with so many multipurpose stadia, the surface never gets a rest. Then it gets re-surfaced and that never gets a chance to take root and bed down. So in a sense it can be argued that the surface never has (and never will) recover from the flood which damaged the original established surface. Not unless you can get them to stop playing any games for at least three months, or long for yet another new surface . (I got this from a retired Greenskeeper who looked after the some of the top Golf courses and bowling greens in the country as a specialist consultant, when I was whinging why they couldn't get it right).
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Darby Loudon (17)
It's never got the chance to heal properly since the floods and the stadium management (and the year round sports calendar) are partly to blame.
It can't recover properly in winter because League and Union games just shred it too pieces. Then once they're done, the ground hosts massive concerts like Taylor Swift just as the summer rains come, which are followed by intense sun leaving it very patchy and generally shit, and results in the Roar being totally infuriated with the stadium for their season. Then it all repeats again and the pitch gets gradually worse and worse.
If the concerts stopped, it would have a chance of coming good as A-League games don't cause many problems for the maintenance team and a bit of rain and sunshine without Rugby would have it looking good by next march.
Otherwise they should be having a hard looking at the technology AAMI Park uses in it's soil to keep it all in one piece and replace the whole thing.
It is what it is
John Solomon (38)
Please get them to do Randwick racecourse with any leftover grass
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Mark Ella (57)
I am interested to read the comments on replacing Phipps with Genia.
I thought Phipps played well when he came on, in fact to my eye at the ground the pace of the game increased, with his quicker arrival at the breakdowns and crisp clearance. The only black mark was one woeful pass that was hooked 10 metres behind the line.
Phipps has been in career best form all year and I would not like to see any player dropped after 20 minutes of test play for a player in career worst form (excepting one game which he showed glimpses of his better form) who has not played anywhere near the level of the player he is to replace. On potential Genia is better, but he just hasn't showed it this year.
I thought Phipps played well when he came on, in fact to my eye at the ground the pace of the game increased, with his quicker arrival at the breakdowns and crisp clearance. The only black mark was one woeful pass that was hooked 10 metres behind the line.
Phipps has been in career best form all year and I would not like to see any player dropped after 20 minutes of test play for a player in career worst form (excepting one game which he showed glimpses of his better form) who has not played anywhere near the level of the player he is to replace. On potential Genia is better, but he just hasn't showed it this year.
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Ron Walden (29)
The ticket price isn't as much the issue as I think the promotion is. A lot of people could be mistaken for not realising a test match was on last night, considering that the ARU hasn't exactly done a great job promoting the series. I haven't seen one FTA TV commercial (granted, I would watch little to no TV during the week) and only the rare sports section bottom of the page ad. France is never going to automatically sell out like a Lions series (which the ARU also did a piss poor job of promoting) and it doesn't have the natural built in rivalry like a Bledisloe Cup match.
Maybe a sell out wasn't realistic, but 40,000+ for a test match in Brisbane, the only city in the country where neither the AFL or soccer have much of a reach, should be doable. The RG-era Reds have been pulling in more than 33,000, and I'd estimate the crowd last night was made up of many of the same folks. The ARU have the most promotable sports star in the country in Folau, a team with a fairly squeaky clean image, a new coach and are coming off an EOYT that was all sorts of successful. The selling job should have been done much earlier and much more effectively to get bums on seats.
Price is still an issue. $220 is a lot of money to take a family to the rugby, and it comes much closer to $300 when you factor in Suncorp's exorbitant food and drink prices. Hopefully last night's performance gets some Melbournians on seats and Sydneysiders a week later, because that was the most attractive and exciting game of rugby I've watched all year.
Maybe a sell out wasn't realistic, but 40,000+ for a test match in Brisbane, the only city in the country where neither the AFL or soccer have much of a reach, should be doable. The RG-era Reds have been pulling in more than 33,000, and I'd estimate the crowd last night was made up of many of the same folks. The ARU have the most promotable sports star in the country in Folau, a team with a fairly squeaky clean image, a new coach and are coming off an EOYT that was all sorts of successful. The selling job should have been done much earlier and much more effectively to get bums on seats.
Price is still an issue. $220 is a lot of money to take a family to the rugby, and it comes much closer to $300 when you factor in Suncorp's exorbitant food and drink prices. Hopefully last night's performance gets some Melbournians on seats and Sydneysiders a week later, because that was the most attractive and exciting game of rugby I've watched all year.
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
How is Hayne like Tahu? Hayne is probably in the top 3 players of the NRL.
At the game, the impression I had was that Phipps was fine - the pace of delivery remained much the same, and the bigger issues were with other substitutions outlined by others - scrum, ruck cohesion etc......... But I accept that opinions at the game clouded by some pre-game lubrication might be flawed! So...........
I watched my replay this afternoon and watched Phipps closely, and he threw one horrible pass that I saw, with the rest being fine. He had no options to pass to a couple of times and ran it into contact, which reflected the slight loss of cohesion in forward changes and players not being in motion and giving him the options. I suspect calls for him to be chucked are based more on previously conceived opinions rather than anything new.
I'm sure Genia is good enough to rise to his better, or even best, but for now, he has to blow them away on the training pitch, then take the chance he gets.
In any event, the bigger issues are who to start and have on the bench for the locks and front rowers. By far.
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Mark Ella (57)
My thoughts about the match and the contents in this thread.
Carter player tighthead lock so the number swap matched their position in the scrum.
Many people are trying to put the match attendance figures down to one thing while what really caused it has many factors. Amongst these you could factor in the liberal governments budget, the wallabies record in recent years, the wallabies perished show start record. Two state of origin games in Brisbane this year, lots of people away for the long weekend and no real rivalry with the French.
If the wallabies continue to play like they did last night most of these things will effect crowd numbers less.
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Carter player tighthead lock so the number swap matched their position in the scrum.
Many people are trying to put the match attendance figures down to one thing while what really caused it has many factors. Amongst these you could factor in the liberal governments budget, the wallabies record in recent years, the wallabies perished show start record. Two state of origin games in Brisbane this year, lots of people away for the long weekend and no real rivalry with the French.
If the wallabies continue to play like they did last night most of these things will effect crowd numbers less.
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