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Wallabies 2025

TryTimeTuggySpeedman

TryTimeTuggySpeedman

Frank Nicholson (4)
Slim 293 said:
Can you imagine the level of destruction to the game in Wales if Eddie coached that team...
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I believe Eddie jones purposely came to aid the destruction/downfall of Australian rugby, in a time were desperate and eager win coming into a world cup. Did we need to get rid of David Rennie, i don't think so. David Rennie was only just finding his strides, were we winning every game? Not exactly. but they were coming close to the best teams in the world? A seriously poor decision from the rugby Australia board. On the note of wales, he will be the worst thing for them, seeing what he did to Aus rugby.
 
The Ghost of Raelene

The Ghost of Raelene

David Codey (61)
If we'd kept Rennie we wouldn't be having a conversation around is this the guy to take to the WC... We'd be exactly treading water IMO.

At least some of this moving parts situation can hopefully lead to a leap forward for Rugby. Yes, it could be a stumble as well but when you arent the dominant force in town steady as she goes might not be the way. Take a sensible swing.
 
Braveheart81

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
We absolutely should have let him see out his contract though. We took a massive punt on Eddie at significant financial cost that left us in a worse position than we were already in.

A massive amount of hubris from McLennan in particular that just changing the coach could result in a significant change of fortunes in a short period of time.
 
Tomthumb

Tomthumb

Peter Fenwicke (45)
Surely they knew this was the most likely outcome when he only signed a contract through to the Lions series? The fact RA seem genuinely surprised that he's leaving when he said he would isn't a great look for either Horne or Waugh
 
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Major Tom

Allen Oxlade (6)
You got a quote or any evidence that shows RA were surprised he didn't sign on? They clearly know they were unlikely to get him to the next WC, they're just buying more time to plan out a succession plan by extending him a little bit longer. The most important thing is casting the net wide as wide as possible and finding the best possible candidate that will be able to smoothly take over. Gatland and Chieka absolutely don't fit that bill IMO.
 
Tomthumb

Tomthumb

Peter Fenwicke (45)
The fact that the last 2 months were radio silence and that there isn't any plan in place for the end of this year makes it pretty obvious they were hoping the coaching bug kept him around.

Casting a wide net isn't exactly easy midway through a world cup cycle. The head coach is hard enough to find, let alone enough quality assistants willing and free to take a job less than 2 years out from a World Cup.

And which one is it, the best possible candidate or a smooth transition? Because they are different things. If you wanted a smooth transition the next coach would have been earmarked and on the staff already, and if you wanted the best candidate you probably wouldn't want Schmidt still involved as top candidates would want to run it themselves.
 
dru

dru

David Wilson (68)
Now there is the rub. You’re happy to count the various discussions around current Aus Super PAC coaches? If yes then there is some middling flaffing around the way forward. I use the word “flaff” intentionally. Outside of some utterly mindless anti-Reds angst from certain Brumbies fans on this site, I just don’t think it counts.

If there is an ACTUAL plan beyond that, I haven’t seen it yet.

RA have had years to work through this scenario. I applaud their effort to stretch the involvement of Schmidt. But for me I have not seen a considered back-up plan beyond the above mentioned flaff.

And as a Reds fan I’m pretty irritated by that discussion.

Time will tell, but as an average punter I just can’t see how anyone would suggest there is evidence of a properly considered succession plan, let alone a B plan for that succession.
 
Slim 293

Slim 293

George Smith (75)
I don't expect they're going to start up a WhatsApp group to share every detail of what's going on behind the scenes with all the fans...

I'd be pretty confident that they've planned for said contingencies considering the likeliness Schmidt wasn't staying on, but at the same time they couldn't proceed with the next step of actively hiring someone until Schmidt had confirmed whether he was staying or not.

The fact that RA have announced they want to announce the new coach early in the SRP (Super Rugby Pacific) season means that things are likely moving along in the background.
 
dru

dru

David Wilson (68)
There is a meaning behind the word “Plan”. What we HAVE seen is RA pushing thinking (too nascent to call it planning) which has aggravated SuperPac fans around our local (under qualified for international) coaches.

yeah. Good, BH. October. Think about it then.
 
Derpus

Derpus

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Springbokbreaker said:
I believe Eddie jones purposely came to aid the destruction/downfall of Australian rugby, in a time were desperate and eager win coming into a world cup. Did we need to get rid of David Rennie, i don't think so. David Rennie was only just finding his strides, were we winning every game? Not exactly. but they were coming close to the best teams in the world? A seriously poor decision from the rugby Australia board. On the note of wales, he will be the worst thing for them, seeing what he did to Aus rugby.
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I think you'll find this was the decision of one man.
 
dru

dru

David Wilson (68)
Slim 293 said:
I don't expect they're going to start up a WhatsApp group to share every detail of what's going on behind the scenes with all the fans...
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[sigh]
Did I suggest this? (To help the slow, no.)

My observations are that what RA have actually done, WhatsApp or general media, is to destabilise SuperPac club planning around their HCs.
Slim 293 said:
I'd be pretty confident that they've planned for said contingencies considering the likeliness Schmidt wasn't staying on,
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There we go, nothing to see here, Slim is “pretty confident”. No room for fan commentary at all, is there? No not at all.
 
Derpus

Derpus

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Tomthumb said:
Surely they knew this was the most likely outcome when he only signed a contract through to the Lions series? The fact RA seem genuinely surprised that he's leaving when he said he would isn't a great look for either Horne or Waugh
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People can find outrage in themselves about anything, honestly. There are more than enough actual issues to get pissed about.
 
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Yoda

Yoda

Phil Hardcastle (33)
Adam84 said:
Plenty of senior citizens have a good driving record also, doesn’t mean they should still be driving though
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Gatland will be available is what I said. Plenty of Forum members have commented thousands of times. Doesn’t mean they know what they are talking about. Ideally I’d like to see Jamie Joseph. He’s a great coach.
 
Braveheart81

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
dru said:
yeah. Good, BH. October. Think about it then.
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Are you being purposely obtuse?

There's a pretty substantial difference between needing that new coach in place by October and taking that to mean that RA isn't going to think about it until then.

It would seem pretty clear that RA's preferred option was to convince Schmidt to re-sign. That hasn't worked but he has agreed to extend until the end of the Rugby Championship. They now have clarity over that and an (up to) 8 month lead-in to that new coach needing to be in place.

I would hazard to guess that this is the longest lead time Rugby Australia has ever had to appoint a new coach.
 
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