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Wallabies 2025

Cole

Herbert Moran (7)
Gatland is about to come on the market presumably, but not sure I'd want to go there, Ian Foster not sure again. How locked in is Jacques Neinaber to Leinster?
 

Dismal Pillock

Michael Lynagh (62)
Ian Foster
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Derpus

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Setting aside the parochial nonsense... none of the current Super Rugby coaches would be brilliant selections you'd think but it looks like we'll be recruiting mid cycle again.
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
Sad to see Joe go, but I think we all knew deep down that this was going to happen. We've done well to snag him in the first place and I think he's done an excellent job with this team. I just hope we can keep him around in an advisory capacity of some description, because the amount of rugby IP he possesses is immense.
 

Tomthumb

Peter Fenwicke (45)
Sad to see Schmidt go, but they knew this was likely when they signed him

I don't think any of the 4 super Coaches are ready yet, let alone making it harder on them by coming in mid cycle. It wouldn't be fair on any of them

Best bet would be to bring Cheika in until the world cup and then appoint the best Super coach from 2028 onwards. Despite how it ended last time, Cheika is a world class coach that's experienced as an international coach and seems to thrive when given a role with a short term focus
 

Jimmy_Crouch

Peter Johnson (47)
And he has done plenty since he last coached the Wallabies too. Things to make him better. NRL assistant, Lebanon RL head coach, Argentina assistant then head coach, DOR in Japan for NEC and now coaching in the Premiership. My only issue would be I don’t see him working with Joe or Peter Horne (he has made many comments about how he should have quit when they appointed Scott Johnson as his boss). I think I like the idea as it allows the super rugby coaches more time to bed in also. Maybe Joe can ring Rog and Rangi (Ronan O’Gara and Leon MacDonald)
 

A mutterer

Chilla Wilson (44)
I think it's too soon for the domestic options, particularly with a mid cycle run into the WC.

Also, we should be putting a line through some names before we start. Gatland first to be crossed out.
 

Homer

Alfred Walker (16)
Vern cotter has some good runs on the board and has done a very good job with Auckland after picking up some titles with the Crusaders. Coached internationally as well.
 

Dctarget

Tim Horan (67)
I'm much more positive about Cheika than most on here. He has proven success time & time again. From Leinster - Stade Francais - Waratahs - Wallabies - Argentina - Leicester he always has an almost immediate positive impact. There aren't many coaches who have a consistently good record, look at Gatland/EJ (Eddie Jones)/Lancaster.

Buuuut just from a playing style, I think the high retention tactics are just setting in for the Wallabies and it's not Cheika's MO. It'd be a shame to see our good work ripped up for a new style. Would rather a Schmidt disciple than another big brain big identity coach.
 

The Ghost of Raelene

David Codey (61)
With a relatively short period prior to the WC it limits the coaches IMO and we are going to have someone signed through to that then gone. A safe set of hands to hopefully do something like Connolly at the time. Nobody thought he was a long term option but was the trusty can of baked beans in cupboard when you've forgotten to go shopping.

Come on down Jake White sadly.... Cheika also falls into this category but potentially more disruptive than they may like. The trophy cabinet speaks though and a smash and grab could be how it's sold. I don't want it though.

I think Kiss is the most likely if you aren't to just go back to the well. We'll hear the whole he use to work with Schmidt.... I don't know if he's the guy personally. I think he's a slightly above average pro coach but in the journeyman category with no titles to his name as a HC except a tier 2 English comp.

Do RA find a stop gap through the WC then look for a longer contracted coach post WC? We need stability in the job to bring direction. Sucks to hear 2 weeks out form the start of the season the only Rugby news on TV was "The Wallabies need another coach"
 

Derpus

Nathan Sharpe (72)
I'm much more positive about Cheika than most on here. He has proven success time & time again. From Leinster - Stade Francais - Waratahs - Wallabies - Argentina - Leicester he always has an almost immediate positive impact. There aren't many coaches who have a consistently good record, look at Gatland/EJ (Eddie Jones) (Eddie Jones)/Lancaster.

Buuuut just from a playing style, I think the high retention tactics are just setting in for the Wallabies and it's not Cheika's MO. It'd be a shame to see our good work ripped up for a new style. Would rather a Schmidt disciple than another big brain big identity coach.
Has he gone well at Leicester?
 

PhilClinton

Mark Loane (55)
I think Kiss is the most likely if you aren't to just go back to the well. We'll hear the whole he use to work with Schmidt.... I don't know if he's the guy personally. I think he's a slightly above average pro coach but in the journeyman category with no titles to his name as a HC except a tier 2 English comp.

I really like Kiss as a leader (Reds bias obviously) but I tend to agree.

I think he's a great fit with the Reds partially because he has some genuine connection with QLD from his playing days and the Reds media tried to lean into this from day 1 by relating his experiences with QLD SOO to what he is trying to achieve.

From a general optics perspective I think the hardest thing any coach going straight from Super Rugby to the Wallabies will need to overcome is the sense that they're just a glorified club coach. A couple of losses and they'll cop that label very quickly.
 

Alex Sharpe

Ted Fahey (11)
Time to pull out the Cheik book...

Sounding out blokes like Vern Cotter, Nianber, ROG etc would be due diligence and we may get lucky.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
Staff member
The units who have worked in the brumbies\Irish systems would fit into the current wobs model

ie well structured but dynamic

Of the aus based Larkham, Kiss and McKellar each have worked within that style of program

I can't imagine ROG considering the step down to coach Aus and I don't see most Kiwi or Bok coaches as fitting into the structure we need

Kiwi coaches are used to highly athletic and skilled players making one on one efforts and the boks just through roided giants at you

We lack highly athletic and skilled players and only have a few giants
 

Tomthumb

Peter Fenwicke (45)
And he has done plenty since he last coached the Wallabies too. Things to make him better. NRL assistant, Lebanon RL head coach, Argentina assistant then head coach, DOR in Japan for NEC and now coaching in the Premiership. My only issue would be I don’t see him working with Joe or Peter Horne (he has made many comments about how he should have quit when they appointed Scott Johnson as his boss). I think I like the idea as it allows the super rugby coaches more time to bed in also. Maybe Joe can ring Rog and Rangi (Ronan O’Gara and Leon MacDonald)
I'm not a fan of Schmidt still being involved if he's actually coaching. He's such a big figure in the game I don't think it would be fair on the new coach coming in. Basically telling everyone you don't fully trust the guy you hired
 

Tomthumb

Peter Fenwicke (45)
I'm much more positive about Cheika than most on here. He has proven success time & time again. From Leinster - Stade Francais - Waratahs - Wallabies - Argentina - Leicester he always has an almost immediate positive impact. There aren't many coaches who have a consistently good record, look at Gatland/EJ (Eddie Jones) (Eddie Jones)/Lancaster.

Buuuut just from a playing style, I think the high retention tactics are just setting in for the Wallabies and it's not Cheika's MO. It'd be a shame to see our good work ripped up for a new style. Would rather a Schmidt disciple than another big brain big identity coach.
I get where you're coming from but I think our players are capable of adapting, and one of Cheika's biggest strengths is getting players up to speed quickly

And I'd be quite nervous trying to force a coach to keep playing a Schmidt style when they aren't Joe Schmidt
 

Derpus

Nathan Sharpe (72)
I know La Rochelle are good but they're not above Australia. Especially as they're a middling team this year. ROG's best immediate shot at international rugby is Australia.
Is he better placed than the Super Rugby coaches? I know he's highly regarded but is similarly inexperienced at test level.
 
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