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Wallabies 2024

Tomikin

David Codey (61)
That's the story doing the rounds Tom, but to me his passing was particularly crisp and accurate, he didn't fuck about at the back of the ruck as Gordon did yesterday against Ireland, and his defence in cover was top notch. I think a lot of bias against him has been the motivation for some of the comments and that he really did have a very effective game against England A.
I watched the game, he made way to many mistakes and wasn't that crisp as you say. While he does have a good pass and game, that was not one of them, he made a lot of simple mistakes.
 

Dctarget

Tim Horan (67)
Sua'ali'i smashed expectations and then some. We thought he was going to be debuted off the bench, on the wing against Wales for 15 minutes. He's played 4 games against 3 tough teams in the 13 position and not looked at sea without a super game. That's fucked. I doubt I'll see a debut season like it again.
 

Brumby Runner

Jason Little (69)
Exceeded expectations for me. The issues he had with tackle height and line discipline in defense are to be expected coming straight from league and are rectifiable with coaching.

His aerial ability is something special as well.
Did he actually win any high ball contests against Ireland? Sure, put pressure on the receiver, but I can't recall any forced dropped ball by the Irish. His high jumping/athleticism is his best attribute but the Irish were able to nullify it for the whole game. I wouldn't rate him more than a 3/10 overall, but with a season of Super Rugby under his belt, who knows? Maybe he should have had that season as his introduction before being thrown into the test cauldron.
 

Derpus

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Did he actually win any high ball contests against Ireland? Sure, put pressure on the receiver, but I can't recall any forced dropped ball by the Irish. His high jumping/athleticism is his best attribute but the Irish were able to nullify it for the whole game. I wouldn't rtate him morfe than a 3/10 overall, but with a season of Super Rugby under his belt, who knows? Maybe he shaould have had that season as his introduction before being thrown into the test caldron.
:rolleyes:
 

Dctarget

Tim Horan (67)
Did he actually win any high ball contests against Ireland? Sure, put pressure on the receiver, but I can't recall any forced dropped ball by the Irish. His high jumping/athleticism is his best attribute but the Irish were able to nullify it for the whole game. I wouldn't rtate him morfe than a 3/10 overall, but with a season of Super Rugby under his belt, who knows? Maybe he shaould have had that season as his introduction before being thrown into the test caldron.
Yeah he got one ball back
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
Staff member
If JAS draws defenders and changes the opposition game plan (which I think he is doing) then he’s doing his job. It’s up to the coaches and the halves to find a way to free up the other 14 players on the pitch.
We are seeing more ball movement because of his work, but I think as opposing defenders start to back off to cover the offloads we will see him run more
 

LeCheese

Greg Davis (50)
We are seeing more ball movement because of his work, but I think as opposing defenders start to back off to cover the offloads we will see him run more
This is what I'm looking forward to during Super.

As an aside, his running technique is also beautifully effortless.
 

Serge

Jimmy Flynn (14)
Did he actually win any high ball contests against Ireland? Sure, put pressure on the receiver, but I can't recall any forced dropped ball by the Irish. His high jumping/athleticism is his best attribute but the Irish were able to nullify it for the whole game. I wouldn't rate him more than a 3/10 overall, but with a season of Super Rugby under his belt, who knows? Maybe he should have had that season as his introduction before being thrown into the test cauldron.
This is accurate but I would go further. His overall stats were poor, his reading of where to be positionally when off the ball is poor, his lack of urgency to get back in support of his other outside backs when the opposition kicks through is poor. His tackling technique is poor and his tackle success rate against England was only 50%. Better against Ireland where he only fell off one tackle. I think he got a kick in the arse after the first couple of games about his instinct to jam in as he positioned himself better against Ireland. I rate players at international level who take fast and effective actions to get second and third touches in attack or tackles in defence. Sua'ali'i is nowhere near this standard yet. All that said, the kid clearly has great athletic ability and with time could develop into a great winger.
 
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JRugby2

Bob Loudon (25)
Yeah, do tend to agree, just feel Nic White has probably done his time and it'd be good to see some new blood come through as the third (apprentice) half back. To be fair, I've been impressed by the form of Louis Werchon, he's never looked out of place in the few starts he's had.
He's probably a while off - likely post 2027 at best, depending the the direction his career takes. Unlikely to see much floor time behind Tate and Kalani this year.
 

JRugby2

Bob Loudon (25)
He's already better than Kalani you'd think.
I think they offer different things - Kalani to me has a quicker pass/ distribution off the deck and is a more traditional 9 , with Werchon well and truly has modelled his game off Tate as a probing ball runner who can take on the line.

Kalani also not known to be a head case like Werchon, but you'd hope this would improve with time/ maturity.

Tate can play 80' for a full season, so I can't see why you would replace him unless you're bringing on a point of difference.
 

PhilClinton

Mark Loane (55)
He's probably a while off - likely post 2027 at best, depending the the direction his career takes. Unlikely to see much floor time behind Tate and Kalani this year.

Werchon's lack of maturity at club level was a real influence in his team losing the QPR grand final.

If people get frustrated with White's demeanour and Tate's lack of consistency - Werchon definitely isn't the answer.
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Let's call that tour a success.

Results aside, we physically beat the fuck out of the 4 Home Nations and dispelled any questions over our ability to compete with the Lions.

Bar a few stupid short kicks against Scotland we weren't far from a Grand Slam - or at least a fuckload closer than a lot of us thought we'd get.

The mental fortitude and belief is the most impressive part.

Fuck you, Eddie. Sit down with Hamish McClownan and eat every bag of dicks presented to you.
 

Prodigy

Ron Walden (29)
The Su'ali'i hate on these forums is disgusting. Jealousy is the only way to describe it. JAS provided more threat in attack and defence than anyone would have expected and if you look at stuff about the squad, his involvement lifted them. Ask Sione Tuipulotu how the hit felt.

It's sad when armchair critics say this stuff. He was adjudged by an English audience to be the player of the game in his first test.

Now tell me who you'd rather have in his place, and I'll tell you why you are full of shit.
 

JRugby2

Bob Loudon (25)
Werchon's lack of maturity at club level was a real influence in his team losing the QPR grand final.

If people get frustrated with White's demeanour and Tate's lack of consistency - Werchon definitely isn't the answer.
I wouldn't say Tate is inconsistent - just mostly ineffective inside our own half. Unless there is a half hole around the edge of a ruck where he can gas a lazy A defender, he doesn't have the boot (or a good enough 10 to work with) to relieve pressure.
 

Derpus

Nathan Sharpe (72)
The Su'ali'i hate on these forums is disgusting. Jealousy is the only way to describe it. JAS provided more threat in attack and defence than anyone would have expected and if you look at stuff about the squad, his involvement lifted them. Ask Sione Tuipulotu how the hit felt.

It's sad when armchair critics say this stuff. He was adjudged by an English audience to be the player of the game in his first test.

Now tell me who you'd rather have in his place, and I'll tell you why you are full of shit.
Don't take BR to heart too much mate. He'd be frothing on him if he'd signed with the Brumbies.
 

Tomthumb

Peter Fenwicke (45)
The Su'ali'i hate on these forums is disgusting. Jealousy is the only way to describe it. JAS provided more threat in attack and defence than anyone would have expected and if you look at stuff about the squad, his involvement lifted them. Ask Sione Tuipulotu how the hit felt.

It's sad when armchair critics say this stuff. He was adjudged by an English audience to be the player of the game in his first test.

Now tell me who you'd rather have in his place, and I'll tell you why you are full of shit.
While I agree JAS was impressive, there is noting wrong with critiquing a professional sportsman. It's part of the job and no one should be above criticism (valid or not)
 
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