Wallabies 2024
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The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
Mostly agree, though I don't think LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) is a six. He's a very effective lock, but I don't see him as being athletic enough to play in the back row. Frost is quick enough though.
Yoda
Tom Lawton (22)
I can’t believe how unfit Tupou is. He is a 15-20 player at best based on his fitness. What do they do at training with the bloke? He does not deserve his pay at present. At his best, he is fantastic but we need him fit and more out of him. I also agree that the size of our players is just not big enough. Our forwards have no real mongrel and backs are small in comparison to other Test nations. Joe Schmidt will be at his coaching best to get a side playing to a winning style. I live in hope.
Wilson
Michael Lynagh (62)
Quade wouldn't stir the pot like that would he?
LeCheese
Jim Lenehan (48)
Unheard of
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
Yeah it's line ball isn't it and as you say, very much dependent on the preferred game style. I'd pick Charlie if we are aiming to play an up tempo, multi-phase ball in hand kind of game. I'd go with Harry if the intent is to try and do damage closer to the ruck first and offload in contact.
Both have their strengths and I reckon they've both been outstanding this season.
Both have their strengths and I reckon they've both been outstanding this season.
chiraag
Larry Dwyer (12)
No lineout stats? Really need those to make a proper comparison, since that's one of Cale's main points of difference.
Strewthcobber
Andrew Slack (58)
I don't think you can really analyze the players like this unless you also know what the coach was asking them to do?
These stats really just show what Kiss and Bernie's tactics were, not a quantitative analysis of the quality of each player
KOB1987
John Eales (66)
the app doesn't have individual lineout stats, only team ones. It also doesn't show where the run metres are made, Cale's are mostly out wide whereas Harry's are mostly up the middle, as indicated by Hornet above.
Derpus
George Gregan (70)
On those stats I think it's clearly Wilson. But you realistically need to throw in lineout stats.
PhilClinton
Geoff Shaw (53)
Unfortunately for Nela (and Australian rugby) he started becoming more 'social' once down in Melbourne. He never used to drink alcohol but that changed about 12 months ago. There seems to be a direct correlation to his fitness since then.
Tomthumb
John Solomon (38)
He wasn't exactly a fitness freak in Brisbane
PhilClinton
Geoff Shaw (53)
It was well documented that he wasn't the best trainer, but he was young enough and had enough natural ability and fitness to still be pretty good around the park and obviously do a job at scrum time.
From what I have heard, things have gotten significantly worse to the point where a few teammates and friends are worried he may not even be playing professional rugby within the next few years.
Strewthcobber
Andrew Slack (58)
Nela can't trust either of his legs after a major calf injury in one, and an Achilles rupture in the other.
We underestimate how hard and how long it takes for some guys to come back from these major injuries, especially for guys like him and Vunivalu (hamstring) who rely on acceleration and power as their point of difference.
There's also the fact that he's the heaviest guy in every team he plays for. He should be coming last in every fitness drill, just based on physics. It makes the big guys look like worst trainers even though they can be putting in the most effort
We underestimate how hard and how long it takes for some guys to come back from these major injuries, especially for guys like him and Vunivalu (hamstring) who rely on acceleration and power as their point of difference.
There's also the fact that he's the heaviest guy in every team he plays for. He should be coming last in every fitness drill, just based on physics. It makes the big guys look like worst trainers even though they can be putting in the most effort
Sword of Justice
Bill McLean (32)
For his size it was amazing that he could go 80 so regularly when he was with the Reds. I’d say that qualified him to be a fitness freak at the time. It is simply amazing what his work rate was on top of the scrum dominance and hit ups.
These days there are a number of 140kg props around but next time he’s standing next to another of those dudes compare the size of his neck, wrists, and ankles. He’s 1 of 1.
It would be a crying shame if he threw it away.
PhilClinton
Geoff Shaw (53)
Anyone else get the feeling the first test this season might be the most important game of rugby in this country ever, forever?
Despite an average SRP (Super Rugby Pacific) showing, I think there is still quite a bit of hope that we could roll out a decent team. A win to kick things off I think drastically changes the narrative here, at least at a superficial supporter level.
Regardless, I think everyone is excited to see Wallabies life after the Eddie Jones dumpster fire of a cameo.
Despite an average SRP (Super Rugby Pacific) showing, I think there is still quite a bit of hope that we could roll out a decent team. A win to kick things off I think drastically changes the narrative here, at least at a superficial supporter level.
Regardless, I think everyone is excited to see Wallabies life after the Eddie Jones dumpster fire of a cameo.
Strewthcobber
Andrew Slack (58)
Nah. As always the only game that matters is on 21 September. These Wales games are going to get micro-levels of interest
Derpus
George Gregan (70)
Our tight five looks average at best, particularly weak in the front row. We also have significant issues in the halves with no stand-out performing 9s or 10s.
I'm not sure where this confidence is coming from?
I think we have enough to beat Georgia and Wales at home but if Wales win a game or two I won't really be surprised.
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