Wallabies 2024

[fatprop]

summary of the last few pages, there is always churn of players, some work, some don't; less work in shittier programs

 

[Dctarget]

Kata didn't join the Brumbies until 2020, and was really only used off the bench as a wing...

Sione left in 2019, so was looking for a spot in 2020. My point is that we're not very strategic with our foreign signings.

 

[Tomthumb]

Not a novel comment from me, but there's also the fact that a nation like Scotland, and the others you mentioned, aren't having to split their naturally gifted athletes (who would likely excel in any sport) between four footy codes, two of which require very similar talents.

While this is true, I still think we have the athletes to have a far better team. As guys like Rob Kearney have mentioned, the athletes playing here are more than good enough, it was the coaching (or lack of) that he was most shocked about

 

[JRugby2]

Sione left in 2019, so was looking for a spot in 2020. My point is that we're not very strategic with our foreign signings.

Sione had a Summer sabbatical in 2018-2019 in Japan before he signed with the Revs club full time. So as Braveheart said before - it's most likely a combination of him wanting to leave and also not being good enough for RA or any of the franchises to aggressively pursue at the time

 

[LeCheese]

While this is true, I still think we have the athletes to have a far better team. As guys like Rob Kearney have mentioned, the athletes playing here are more than good enough, it was the coaching (or lack of) that he was most shocked about

Sure - and similar arguments could be made about the dispersion of coaching talent.

The main point I'm trying to make though is that there really isn't a silver bullet or two. As others have highlighted, there are numerous and longstanding contextual, systemic, and self-inflicted factors at play that will take decades to amend (if possible at all).

 

[Tomthumb]

Sure - and similar arguments could be made about the dispersion of coaching talent.

The main point I'm trying to make though is that there really isn't a silver bullet or two. As others have highlighted, there are numerous and longstanding contextual, systemic, and self-inflicted factors at play that will take decades to amend (if possible at all).

oh it's defiantly still possible. I remember Ireland & Scotland being beyond hopeless not all that long ago. Wales, despite all their problems, have still managed to win regular Grand Slams

 

[Slim 293]

Sione left in 2019, so was looking for a spot in 2020. My point is that we're not very strategic with our foreign signings.

There wouldn’t have been much room for him in the Brumbies midfield at that time though…

 

[LeCheese]

oh it's defiantly still possible. I remember Ireland & Scotland being beyond hopeless not all that long ago. Wales, despite all their problems, have still managed to win regular Grand Slams

To be frank, I'm less optimistic given the factors at play in Aus. I do believe we can probably get back to a top 6 or 7 team, and maintain if not slightly grow player numbers / public interest, but I don't think we can get back to where we were in the late 90s / early '00s.

Nice to see some optimism from you though

 

[Dctarget]

There wouldn’t have been much room for him in the Brumbies midfield at that time though…

This is my fault for getting so into the past but he could've easily taken Kuenzle's bench spot and be ready for Tevita's immediate permanent form slump. I'm not lumping this at the Brumbies feet, Aus super players sign mediocre foreigners for cheap, I really hope the Rebels' demise allows teams to consolidate their wealth and focus it on Aus prospects.

 

[JRugby2]

This is my fault for getting so into the past but he could've easily taken Kuenzle's bench spot and be ready for Tevita's immediate permanent form slump. I'm not lumping this at the Brumbies feet, Aus super players sign mediocre foreigners for cheap, I really hope the Rebels' demise allows teams to consolidate their wealth and focus it on Aus prospects.

did he want to go anywhere else in Aus or is this just an assumption - especially considering his previous sabbatical and experience in Japan?

 

[stillmissit]

I do believe we can probably get back to a top 6 or 7 team

Agree and with a bit of luck we will be there at the end of this tour.

 

[stillmissit]

This is my fault for getting so into the past but he could've easily taken Kuenzle's bench spot and be ready for Tevita's immediate permanent form slump. I'm not lumping this at the Brumbies feet, Aus super players sign mediocre foreigners for cheap, I really hope the Rebels' demise allows teams to consolidate their wealth and focus it on Aus prospects.

I also hope the Rebels demise has proven to all Super Rugby teams in AUS that you can't buy your way to greatness.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

I also hope the Rebels demise has proven to all Super Rugby teams in AUS that you can't buy your way to greatness.

Please lord don't start this.

 

[stillmissit]

Please lord don't start this.

Too late Ghost. It is a major problem across most clubs and franchises in AUS.

 

[Derpus]

Too late Ghost. It is a major problem across most clubs and franchises in AUS.

How? They are all broke and have been for years...

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

I beg.

 

[stillmissit]

How? They are all broke and have been for years...

So the Rebels were broke when they bought TT et al for a lot of dough?

 

[Dctarget]

So the Rebels were broke when they bought TT et al for a lot of dough?

..well yes... that's the whole crux of the issue

 

[Thalium]

I am disappointed that Stan is not showing the Reds v Japanese Wild knights on Mon 4th Nov. 7 of the players will be in the full squad.

There must be something to do with the media rights holder in Japan given we don’t see any Japanese games anymore and Stan did show the Force games in South Africa

 

[LeCheese]

I beg.