We've long past the days where the nine can select on their own, willy nilly, whether to pass or kick. They make that decision at times, but the overall preference has been passed down to them by the coaches. If White disregarded that he'd be pulled from the lineup and they'd replace him with a guy that follows instructions.
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We've long past the days where the nine can select on their own, willy nilly, whether to pass or kick. They make that decision at times, but the overall preference has been passed down to them by the coaches. If White disregarded that he'd be pulled from the lineup and they'd replace him with a guy that follows instructions.
Marce
Peter Sullivan (51)
Maybe the government could give skilled migration visas to young Saffas and Kiwis hookers lol
The Ghost of Raelene
Steve Williams (59)
No thank you. We can produce the raw product they just don't have the fine skills.
stillmissit
Peter Fenwicke (45)
This is very true and one of the real weaknesses in our rugby {apart from McQueens time). Forwards win matches the backs decide the score is true.
When I arrived in Australia from NZ it shocked me that what I had learnt in SA and NZ about controlling the ball and how to win it back were not practised in Aust. Tight scrummaging and broken play were very different.
It has improved a lot since that time but we still take little interest in the tough stuff done by forwards.
Highlander35
Steve Williams (59)
I appreciate your commentary, but to be frank, by not dropping a name (or alternatively, confirming that they are currently part of the National/State set ups or pathways), all you've said is that an elder statesman, who has been involved in high performance rugby at some point during his career, thinks we should pick the nippy running halfback and move the big islander winger to the centers.
There would be at least half a dozen blokes who've had one too many at virtually every rugby function who would spout the same.
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
Fines has been great for the Force and definitely keeps the defence honest.
Dctarget
Tim Horan (67)
Dunno about big chance you'd assume Longeran, McDermott and White are top 3 (if we take 3). If one of them get injured then he could be in.
Linerunner2023
Alfred Walker (16)
What’s the process now with Aus a game done? No more games scheduled after this week will jones just pick a 40 odd man squad to keep going?
will Aus a players now go back to club rugby unless called upon?
only one to come in def will be tupou
Wilson, LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto), Neville may come in! IFL looked good, Folau Fainga'a or Lonergan a chance only as there is no good hookers
will Aus a players now go back to club rugby unless called upon?
only one to come in def will be tupou
Wilson, LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto), Neville may come in! IFL looked good, Folau Fainga'a or Lonergan a chance only as there is no good hookers
whitefalcon
Dave Cowper (27)
I'm surprised Lonergan isn't on the bench this weekend. You'd think it would be the perfect time to make a debut if he is a chance for the RWC. Maybe Eddie is only going to take two halves?
rodha
Dave Cowper (27)
I came across this on reddit, as you said every coach since Deans had suffered the same systemic problems - what makes them think he'd do any better with the current Wallabies than Rennie did?
KevinO
Geoff Shaw (53)
Still better then Foley's, Hoopers win percentage etc.
Does anyone believe a metric regarding the % wins for a specific player in a team effort of 23 people is anything other than a convenient data point to use to either promote a player someone likes, or condemn one they don't?
There are so many variables in a rugby Test, it just sounds like a nonsense to me.
It certainly wouldn't fly in a scientific statistical analysis.
There are so many variables in a rugby Test, it just sounds like a nonsense to me.
It certainly wouldn't fly in a scientific statistical analysis.
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
I don't think the kicks were all necessarily non contestable. Many times the chasers just stood back about 5 - 10 metres rather than getting up to contest the ball. As a tactic, it failed for whatever reason, but it certainly looked to me that the plan was to allow the kick to be received and then to put the catcher away in a quick tackle/ruck situation but it just didn't happen. Incidentally, I would guess that all of Nic White's kicks were from first phase, certainly the majority of them and some of Quade's too. Just too much kicking away possession without even attempting to do anything with it. Box kicking (in the right parts of the field), and kicking for territory are certainly part of the game, but should not be the main component as it was against the Saffas. Ball in hand is when you score points if you are good enough.
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
Not at all BH. Our kicks were mostly on first, second or third phase so we had very little time in possession (37% I believe). The Saffas did a whole shitload more with the ball before they kicked, or actually scored tries when they ran it. No surprise at all that the kicking stats are somewhat equal. The issue is what the respective sides did with the ball when thay had it.
Sir Arthur Higgins
Alan Cameron (40)
Deans was a great coach and I’ve said before he was much maligned by people on this thread and in aus rugby press for preaching “we’ve got to play what’s in front of us”
He was a great coach and still is it seems!
Lions loss hurt admittedly.
Shiggins
Simon Poidevin (60)
I see this all too often. Jake Gordan could have got to this ball first but pulls out like he is worried about the Tongan player coming in. Maybe it's the way his body was and he didn't have the strength to reach but it doesn't look good. Our players don't seem to play for the jersey sometimes.
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This is not one of those times.
WTF are we supposed to glean from a blurred stillshot??
