Wallabies 2019 Thread
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
I reckon there's a strong case that if Cheika is serious about taking these two to the RWC that he needs to give them a reasonable amount of game time over the upcoming four tests to either make sure they're physically able to hold up or that they break down and he can select someone else.
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Bobby Sands
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Why are Tahs so staunchly supportive of Foley?
It’s like Trump rhetoric.
Let’s just see what happens shall we.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
And we can with Lilo or Quade?
They are all subpar. Second someone half decent comes along i will advocate for his selection in a heartbeat.
Why are some so critical of him, or anyone? If you think most people posting on here don't have biases, you're dreaming.
Personally, I think all the candidates at 10 have deficiencies. So, what Fatprop said is true - you pick whoever and work around their shortcomings. I'm guessing they'll all get some time. Then we'll have the debate about who else played with whoever and how that was unfair on player X, who had to play with player Y who is crappier than player Z and so on.
I think Foley has benefitted from being generally fit, reliable enough without being spectacular usually, while others have been more mercurial, with greater variances in form, and indeed fitness (yes, Cooper etc.).
We are not so lucky as NZ who have often had several very good 10s to choose from; hell, usually plenty of good players in every position.
I also agree that whether we win or lose the RWC (as a middle ranked team) will depend far more on what the forwards do, than the backs. I think there will be enough firepower in the backs to score points if we get good ball.
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Bobby Sands
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Let the process dictate, stop telling us he is the best available.
Let the men decide by performing.
Let the men decide by performing.
I'm not. I said he probably has been, in the past, mainly by virtue of poor options. I said they (now) all have deficiencies. No more, no less.
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Darby Loudon (17)
Not many games before WC for a great process.
You'd have to think he's on a "one-strike" type leash, given his on-field indiscretions of late. I doubt he'll have much latitude off the field! We can scarcely afford an idiotic YC in the Rugby Championship, let alone the RWC. Ideally, Uelese hits some form so the situation is even clearer for Latu, if he gets an early crack - play smart or you're gone.
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Peter Sullivan (51)
I'm fine with Foley starting at 10. If he does though, you can't have Beale at 15. You need to have DHP at 14 and Banks (or Hodge somewhere) at 15. Reason being, the most obvious inside three will be Foley, Kerevi (yes his kicking game has improved) and TK.
Foley and Beale really don't have the necessary kicking game we need to get out of our own 22. DHP/Hodge and Banks from what I've seen get on average another 10 - 20 metres from general play than the pop-gun specialists.
Foley and Beale really don't have the necessary kicking game we need to get out of our own 22. DHP/Hodge and Banks from what I've seen get on average another 10 - 20 metres from general play than the pop-gun specialists.
Good point. Although a few points for thought:-
This year, DHP has been less good. Overall and kicking. Hopefully he'll come on with his game in squad time.
Leali'ifano has been a bit hit and miss too. Hence Banks does a lot of it for the Brumbies.
Hodge needs to command a spot for his overall game, not just being wonder-boot.
They might use more box-kicks for touch / 22-exits from the 9s - certainly would boost White's claim.
This year, I think Foley has slightly improved from the hand; Beale has gone a bit backwards. I didn't watch all the games though. Under the pressure of Tests, concerning.
O'Connor maybe??? Always had a decent boot.
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Steve Williams (59)
Genia did most of the exits last year from memory and was getting us near the halfway line. Banks is quite a good line kicker which is another point in his favour to start at 14 or 15.
Exactly. In a lot of ways, a good box-kick set-up is hard to beat and hard to defend. You get blockers (rightly or wrongly) and it can be a very good exit strategy - witness Cubelli last weekend ( I know I said it before somewhere on this site).
But you need the right box-kicker. Genia can be good, White is very good, Powell pretty good.
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