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U16 schoolboy rugby

Soupnasty

Soupnasty

Allen Oxlade (6)
This U16 and U19 Super rugby would be run as a cost/investment for Rugby.
It makes no sense for that investment to have teams lose by 100.
It is impossible to tell whether the NSW team or players were excellent as they weren't tested.
Complete waste of content for Stan; surely only the families of the boys that played bothered to watch.

Rugby in Australia can't afford to keep messing this up.

It might have been better to have no Rebels team, feed them into the Brumbies squads and then not have a bye.
 
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RugbyBot

Allen Oxlade (6)
The Brumbies were already strengthened by some Waratah players and lost by 90 anyway.

Agree the comp doesn’t work. Those Brumby and Rebels teams looked about the strength of a good Sydney school team. The U16 Randwick team would have easily beaten both.

The best thing for that age group would be a National champs with Melbourne, ACT, WA playing the Sydney and Qld districts. Then maybe a NSW v Qld match.
 
Soupnasty

Soupnasty

Allen Oxlade (6)
RugbyBot said:
The Brumbies were already strengthened by some Waratah players and lost by 90 anyway.

Agree the comp doesn’t work. Those Brumby and Rebels teams looked about the strength of a good Sydney school team. The U16 Randwick team would have easily beaten both.

The best thing for that age group would be a National champs with Melbourne, ACT, WA playing the Sydney and Qld districts. Then maybe a NSW v Qld match.
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My guess is, if you asked someone in the system, they would say that this is run as a counter to Harrold Matts and SG ball and that is their "strategic validation" for the competition.

But

It's not working
It's not competitive.
Clearly, it isn't doing the job of keeping players.
And the general standard is very poor - so it is not making better players either

Just like Super Rugby, it needs a major rethink.
 
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Mule

Larry Dwyer (12)
Soupnasty said:
My guess is, if you asked someone in the system, they would say that this is run as a counter to Harrold Matts and SG ball and that is their "strategic validation" for the competition.

But

It's not working
It's not competitive.
Clearly, it isn't doing the job of keeping players.
And the general standard is very poor - so it is not making better players either

Just like Super Rugby, it needs a major rethink.
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Not much of a rethink required; basically like the Senior Super Rugby squads worked, pick the best 150 players nationally (yes more from NSW & QLD), allocating them equally across the brands (afraid it means quite a lot of local lads from ACT, VIC & WA would miss out though…)

closer games, better spectacle, rewarding the best players, inspiring those on the cusp…
 
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Mule

Larry Dwyer (12)
thoughts??

Australia U16 Squad

Agapetos Lote-Felo (QLD Reds, The Southport School, Gold Coast Eagles)

Aidan Wunsch (ACT Brumbies, Daramalan College)

Alfie Bowman (QLD Reds, Anglican Church Grammar School)

Aston Weir (NSW Waratahs, The Scots College, Eastern Suburbs Rugby Club)

Bareek Kleine-Deters Ausage (Western Force, Byford Secondary College)

Chase Bunce (Western Force, St Mark's Anglican Community School)

Creighton Meafou (NSW Waratahs, Edmund Rice College, Randwick Warriors)

Cyrus Bloomfield (NSW Waratahs, Oakhill College, Dural Rugby Club)

Darcy Feltham (NSW Waratahs, Oakhill College, Hills Junior Rugby Club)

Halaliku Lauhingoa (Melbourne Rebels, The Grange Secondary College)

Harrison Asi (QLD Reds, Brisbane Boys College)

Harry Whitaker (NSW Waratahs, Newington College, Randwick Warriors)

Hasani Bloomfield (NSW Waratahs, The King's School, Hills Junior Rugby Club)

Hemi Rakuita (QLD Reds, Ipswich Grammar School)

Jack Calleja (QLD Reds, Ipswich Grammar School)

Jarryd King (NSW Waratahs, Newington College, Randwick Warriors)

Justice Taumoepeau (NSW Waratahs, St Joseph's College, Oatley Junior Rugby Club)

Nicholas Kotarac (NSW Waratahs, Knox Grammar School, Wahroonga Tigers)

Oliver Smith (NSW Waratahs, The King's School, Norths Pirates Rugby Club)

Selesitino Mainakavika (NSW Waratahs, St Johns College Dubbo, Dubbo Junior Rugby Club)

Tahj Smith (NSW Waratahs, Barker College, Central Eastwood)

Taione Taka (QLD Reds, Brisbane Boys College, Wests Rugby Club)

Talen Risati (NSW Waratahs, The King's School, Dural Rugby Club)

Visesio Kite (QLD Reds, Anglican Church Grammar School)

William Adrian De Klerk (QLD Reds, Sunshine Coast Grammar School)

Unavailable for selection due to other Rugby commitments:

Flynn Farrell (NSW Waratahs, Oakhill College, Blacktown Scorpions)

Rohan Nichol (QLD Reds, Sunshine Coast Grammar School)

Sam Polley (NSW Waratahs, Oakhill College, Blacktown Scorpions)
 
Wicked Left Foot

Wicked Left Foot

Allen Oxlade (6)
There are a couple from last years u16s side that won’t be available as they are in NZ for Global Rugby 7s - Hartman, Grover & Orr.
 
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Mule

Larry Dwyer (12)
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Squidlips

Peter Burge (5)
I saw today that the NRL is proposing to introduce some new rules around juniors, including player agents restricted from signing junior talent until the calendar year in which they turn 18, and restricting the number of players a club can have on its books between the ages of 16 to 19. Should rugby follow suit wrt the player managers? Will this maybe impact the numbers of schoolboy rugby players being drawn across to league?Thoughts?
 
The Ghost of Raelene

The Ghost of Raelene

David Codey (61)
Squidlips said:
I saw today that the NRL is proposing to introduce some new rules around juniors, including player agents restricted from signing junior talent until the calendar year in which they turn 18, and restricting the number of players a club can have on its books between the ages of 16 to 19. Should rugby follow suit wrt the player managers? Will this maybe impact the numbers of schoolboy rugby players being drawn across to league?Thoughts?
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Do you know what the number is?

People generally have a disdain towards agents and it's caused by a few at the very top have caused this because they get such a hold of a Club if they have management of too many players inside. They can dictate coaching hires/fires and alike. You could argue this can hurt young players through the inexperience and inability to negotiate with a Club who will deal directly with them. Agents know rates and worth and a Clubs goal is to look after the Club, which means pay the player as little as possible.
 
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Squidlips

Peter Burge (5)
The Ghost of Raelene said:
Do you know what the number is?

People generally have a disdain towards agents and it's caused by a few at the very top have caused this because they get such a hold of a Club if they have management of too many players inside. They can dictate coaching hires/fires and alike. You could argue this can hurt young players through the inexperience and inability to negotiate with a Club who will deal directly with them. Agents know rates and worth and a Clubs goal is to look after the Club, which means pay the player as little as possible.
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The full wording that I have seen is:

New contracting model for players aged 16-19 by 2026, which caps remuneration and number of contracts, regulates player relocation, agent engagement and scholarships, and lifts the minimum contracting age to the calendar year the player turns 16.

The model will include two categories:

• Junior Academy Contracts (Under 16/Under 17)

• Senior Academy Contracts (Under 18/Under19)
 
Rugger Observer

Rugger Observer

Banned
Anyone got eyes on Riverviews Hooker Charlie Briggs, I have seen this "otherworldly player" single handedly manhandle St Jospeh's forward pack to victory with his dominance in the scrum and bullet throws in the line outs. Very keen to see how levels up this year for the dominate View side.
 
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