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Greg Davis (50)
That's not true at all. After this year has passed, the 2011 TN will have the same weight as all the others. It's only right now that it seems less important.
Tri Nations Game 6 - Wallabies vs All Blacks - Saturday 27 August 2011 - 3N2011
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That's not true at all. After this year has passed, the 2011 TN will have the same weight as all the others. It's only right now that it seems less important.
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Bill Watson (15)
Well perhaps you should peek at the ABs all time winning rate against WBs...
You should always respect your elders... Otherwise a bloke named Thorn might have 2 remind u why...
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Nev Cottrell (35)
Yawn....
if we are looking at winning rates, then by all means include World Cups.
What's with the sudden influx of kiwi trolls of late? Getting a bit hard to draw a breath over there by any chance?
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Not really - I still view that 2007 TN as being something of a damp squib.
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Er...no, I'm speaking as a supporter of the team that's won the 99, 03 & 07 Tri-nations titles. Believe me when I say they don't really mean much in a WC year. And that goes double for the one when one team didn't put out a first string side at times.
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Either the Wallabies will win the WC and look at this as a crucial step along the way or they won't and the TN will fail to provide much consolation.
But then, maybe I'm just jaded from all those other TN wins.
Mr Doug
Dick Tooth (41)
BDA, your post of yesterday @ 8:45pm was most informative. I particularly want to refer to your last sentence: "I can't recall ever seeing a better Wallabies bench"..... IMO, that is due to "timing", or as some would call it, "peaking". As with any major sporting event, you hope to have all your squad injury-free and and in SBF (season's best form). This appears to have happened for the Wobs, as I have said elswhere, after being at the Baa Baas v Canada game, and seeing the returning players perform, we have a lot to be positive about. My question to members: Is this due to "good management" (careful rehab of injured players, and a good training/fitness regime at both S15 and national levels), or is it just "good luck"?
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
That's OK, Australia didn't field a first string side either...
We were missing Robinson, TPN, Mitchell...
We also rested Samo and Fainga'a for the first match in Auckland which we just handed to you...
I mean, we went into both games with the likes of Pek Cowan and Salesi Maafu on the bench... that's how serious we took the All Blacks this year...
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Tony Shaw (54)
Quoting Greg Growden on today's Herald: "There is unlikely to be any tinkering with the Wallabies' pack, as the front row excelled, while Dan Vickerman and Radike Samo revitalised lineout and back-row play."
I offer this as definitive proof that Growden never watches the game and just makes it up.
I offer this as definitive proof that Growden never watches the game and just makes it up.
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Are you RedsHappy in disguise?
Loving the shorter posts.....but the content is familiar.
Bullrush
Geoff Shaw (53)
Well done Wallabies......great game to watch and even though we lost, I still enjoyed the game.
How good was Samo?!?! If he could run all day....geez that would be scary! Genia was all class.
On the AB front - I think the loss of Read and Kaino were vital and Carter had a pretty poor night. I've been thinking for a couple of years now that Mils mite have done his dash but he usually puts in a couple of great games to second-guess that. But I think Saturday showed he mite be just under what we need at FB. In the last quarter, he got a nice ball from Toeava (I think) that put him in some open space but I don't think anyone really thought he was gonna make anything of it.....Dagg on the other hand....hmmmm.
Scrums were GREAT and line-out was solid.....I like how we came out in the second-half on a mission and just about pulled it out. It's like we knew we had to score points so they just went out and did it. If that had happened earlier then we may have won.
I'm hoping the loss puts just the right amount of 'fire' in the belly for the ABs and the final selection confirmation for the coaches come RWC.
How good was Samo?!?! If he could run all day....geez that would be scary! Genia was all class.
On the AB front - I think the loss of Read and Kaino were vital and Carter had a pretty poor night. I've been thinking for a couple of years now that Mils mite have done his dash but he usually puts in a couple of great games to second-guess that. But I think Saturday showed he mite be just under what we need at FB. In the last quarter, he got a nice ball from Toeava (I think) that put him in some open space but I don't think anyone really thought he was gonna make anything of it.....Dagg on the other hand....hmmmm.
Scrums were GREAT and line-out was solid.....I like how we came out in the second-half on a mission and just about pulled it out. It's like we knew we had to score points so they just went out and did it. If that had happened earlier then we may have won.
I'm hoping the loss puts just the right amount of 'fire' in the belly for the ABs and the final selection confirmation for the coaches come RWC.
darkhorse
Darby Loudon (17)
I think the difference between Sharpe and Vickerman was pretty clear on the weekend. As I said before it's about being effective at the ruck. Vickerman and Horwill have much more impact there.
For what its worth I was only suggesting that Vicks is more suited to starting against the Blacks than Sharp. As for the bench spot I find it hard to call, but Sharpie probably deserves that.
Stats only highlight the involvements. Not how effective they were. Austin also published some stats on ben alexander earlier, that showed him getting through an immense amount of work. Unfortunately when you looked at the video as well, more often than not Alexander was leaning on the ruck rather than attempting a clean out or counter-ruck. He might as well have done nothing. However, he has since upped his game and been more effective IMO.
Beefcake
Bill Watson (15)
If u didnt notice the word 'ALL' then perhaps i better reiterate the point 'ALL TIME WINNING RATE' ... learn to read first, then think b4 u engage the keyboard....
Bullrush
Geoff Shaw (53)
Yeah.....that was pretty good. Probably a bit freakish really though.....I just think Dagg's got the pace and elusiveness we need at fullback.
If Mils was an inside back he'd probably be OK but fullback, I think we need more than what he's consistently got now...
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Ah yes, TPN that titan of test rugby. So much so that he's managed to start only 4 tests in his entire career. Is there a more over-rated player in test rugby?
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John Hipwell (52)
Can we change years that WC is held in please?
This WC could be 2 years late for the ABs, 2 years early for the Wobs. Mils, Thorn, McCaw, and Sivivatu are definitely slowing and none of the replacements have really put their hands up with the exception of Dagg at fullback. The wobs are young and improving and it is really interesting to see the ages in the game program. Most of these guys will still only be in mid/later 20's at the next cup. After this game i'll be very surprised if one of them doesnt take it out (if they don't meet each other in the final) but i don't think either side is really at its peak.
This WC could be 2 years late for the ABs, 2 years early for the Wobs. Mils, Thorn, McCaw, and Sivivatu are definitely slowing and none of the replacements have really put their hands up with the exception of Dagg at fullback. The wobs are young and improving and it is really interesting to see the ages in the game program. Most of these guys will still only be in mid/later 20's at the next cup. After this game i'll be very surprised if one of them doesnt take it out (if they don't meet each other in the final) but i don't think either side is really at its peak.
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