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Tri Nations Game 6 - Wallabies vs All Blacks - Saturday 27 August 2011 - 3N2011

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qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
I hate to sound bitter (cause fair play to the Wallabies, who were superb today), but if NZ could also have won the 3N if we'ds sent our A team to South Africa last week.

Not really. What Kiwis don't understand is that you were never going to win that match. SA don't lose 4 in a row. That's why they won.
 

MajorlyRagerly

Trevor Allan (34)
Bloody he'll, owned by the Aussie forwards!!! Now I've seen everything!! Great first 40 by aus, great comeback by blacknand then genia magic, game had it all. A few comments...

Barnes was superb, what a great ref.
Williams is a dropkick and toeava take out was silly, we still had the chance to bust out without it.
Cooper is a dropkick, but whatever. Knee to the face is a bit off but such is life.
Fucking marto and his abs off side wank on, seriously. The abs always had last foot back which is what barnes was playing and the wobs had done the same thing for 20 mins previous??? No problems anywhere by me!

Good match, and even tho the bad guys won, the right team won. Roll on rwc!!
 

SuperGrover

Darby Loudon (17)
A great victory, with the Wallabies playing the way we all hoped they would. I have only one major point of concern... QC (Quade Cooper)'s defence.

Notably, Nonu's try where he stepped around QC (Quade Cooper). QC (Quade Cooper) just seemed to shrug and give up, there was no flinging himself at Nonu in an attempt to force a mistake, or even a lunge and ankle tap, just... nothing.
Ordinarily, I would give the defending player the benefit of the doubt considering he is on the field and I'm sitting in the pub, but QC (Quade Cooper) has shown on numerous occasions an apparent unwillingness to commit in defence. It is oh so frustrating to watch.

However, credit where credit is due, I thought QC (Quade Cooper) played well and was particularly impressed with his taking of the ball to the line... and taking the tackle when the pass wasn't on. Maybe this small change in physicality and perceived attitude will next manifest itself in defence.
 
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undercoverkiwi

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No guarantees on that. All your key players would have had to travel and get bashed up last week. Last night's game was physically immense and had McCaw and friends played last week fatigue would have been more of a factor.

Incidentally, I don't think anyone has mentioned it yet but McCaw had a great game for NZ last night, he was physically very imposing deep into the second half. He has got a real V8 motor that bloke.

I'm not saying we would have definitely won in SA with out best team, but I would say we'd have been favourites to, and if we had then last night's game would have been a near to a dead rubber.

It saddens me a bit that due to the over-emphasis on the World Cup that New Zealand is not going out win every 3N game, but such is the current reality.
 
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GC

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A great victory, with the Wallabies playing the way we all hoped they would. I have only one major point of concern... QC (Quade Cooper)'s defence.

Notably, Nonu's try where he stepped around QC (Quade Cooper). QC (Quade Cooper) just seemed to shrug and give up, there was no flinging himself at Nonu in an attempt to force a mistake, or even a lunge and ankle tap, just... nothing.
Ordinarily, I would give the defending player the benefit of the doubt considering he is on the field and I'm sitting in the pub, but QC (Quade Cooper) has shown on numerous occasions an apparent unwillingness to commit in defence. It is oh so frustrating to watch.

However, credit where credit is due, I thought QC (Quade Cooper) played well and was particularly impressed with his taking of the ball to the line... and taking the tackle when the pass wasn't on. Maybe this small change in physicality and perceived attitude will next manifest itself in defence.

I found it really hard to work out with the camera angle and depth of field whether he was close to Nonu or not. I suspect he was actually a good 5 metres away but the camera made hime look considerably closer. Either that or he's just pea-hearted.
 

Sluggy

Ward Prentice (10)
A great victory, with the Wallabies playing the way we all hoped they would. I have only one major point of concern... QC (Quade Cooper)'s defence.

Notably, Nonu's try where he stepped around QC (Quade Cooper). QC (Quade Cooper) just seemed to shrug and give up, there was no flinging himself at Nonu in an attempt to force a mistake, or even a lunge and ankle tap, just... nothing.
Ordinarily, I would give the defending player the benefit of the doubt considering he is on the field and I'm sitting in the pub, but QC (Quade Cooper) has shown on numerous occasions an apparent unwillingness to commit in defence. It is oh so frustrating to watch.

However, credit where credit is due, I thought QC (Quade Cooper) played well and was particularly impressed with his taking of the ball to the line... and taking the tackle when the pass wasn't on. Maybe this small change in physicality and perceived attitude will next manifest itself in defence.

The camera angle made him look much closer, have a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkPNJlgzp2E
 

Bowside

Peter Johnson (47)
Bloody he'll, owned by the Aussie forwards!!! Now I've seen everything!! Great first 40 by aus, great comeback by blacknand then genia magic, game had it all. A few comments...

Barnes was superb, what a great ref.
Williams is a dropkick and toeava take out was silly, we still had the chance to bust out without it.
Cooper is a dropkick, but whatever. Knee to the face is a bit off but such is life.
Fucking marto and his abs off side wank on, seriously. The abs always had last foot back which is what barnes was playing and the wobs had done the same thing for 20 mins previous??? No problems anywhere by me!

Good match, and even tho the bad guys won, the right team won. Roll on rwc!!

You have to hand it to your lot. To knuckle down in the second half and play themselves back into the game like they did was a credit to them. That 26 phase try was the definition of building pressure.
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
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You have to hand it to your lot. To knuckle down in the second half and play themselves back into the game like they did was a credit to them. That 26 phase try was the definition of building pressure.

When we were 20-3 up, I posted on another site that it was far from done. When I posted it, I was hoping I was just being pessimistic, but the mode of the AB fightback is why they are ranked #1 - changed the plan, and ground the Wallabies down. Difference this time was that the Wallabies came back at them rather than flagging as they have too often in recent years. Aus have the game to beat the ABs, but it must be executed almost perfectly; anything less and the ABs will pounce. I hope the effort of the first 40 and last 20 minutes was not a flash in the pan. Great to see controlled aggression like that again.
 

kambah mick

Chris McKivat (8)
I have watched the replay a couple of times and one thing stood out for me, Dan Carter never attempted to run above a jog. It was most evident when Samo ran past him, in the subsequent "chase", Ben Alexander clearly outpaced Carter. After seeing that I watched Carter specifically in a replay and at no time did I see him sprint. Begs the question, is he incapable of speed or is he just being subconsciously lazy. He has been one of my favourite all time players, but he seems a fair way off his best currently.
 

Joe Blow

John Hipwell (52)
I have watched the replay a couple of times and one thing stood out for me, Dan Carter never attempted to run above a jog. It was most evident when Samo ran past him, in the subsequent "chase", Ben Alexander clearly outpaced Carter. After seeing that I watched Carter specifically in a replay and at no time did I see him sprint. Begs the question, is he incapable of speed or is he just being subconsciously lazy. He has been one of my favourite all time players, but he seems a fair way off his best currently.
Injured maybe?
 

Mr Doug

Dick Tooth (41)
Observations: 1. Well played all gold jerseys. 2. Ritchie is tough as teak. 3. The Haka...I gave it a level of respect up until 5 or 6 years ago, when listening to an ABC radio feed of Kiwi commentators who said "ladies and gentlemen, you have just witnessed the new, modernised, revised version of the Haka"! Oh yeh!! So now I see it for what it really is, not a piece of cultural, ethnic heritage, but a gross intimidation/stretching "exercise"! Do it at home as oft as you like fellas, but not on our territory....pleeeaaasseee! Aussie national anthem takes just over one minute, NZ anthem (two languages) takes just under two minutes, plus the bloody Haka takes it up to three minutes! No wonder Eddie Jones brought out the tackle bags some years ago at Suncorp Stadium, to try and achieve "equal time"![ Warcries are for school kids, not mature-age sporting events]! At that Suncorp match, (when the tackle bags were produced), a Kiwi a few seats down form me yelled out "c'mon you idiots we are here to play rugby"! As you would expect, I replied with "hey dickhead, your mob has done nothing but sing and dance since they got here"!
 
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Jay

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Not really. What Kiwis don't understand is that you were never going to win that match. SA don't lose 4 in a row. That's why they won.

Except last year, when they lost to the AB's in Soweto to make it 4 losses in a row, you mean?
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Except last year, when they lost to the AB's in Soweto to make it 4 losses in a row, you mean?

The number wasn't really an issue, more to do with they weren't going to go into the WC having not won a game. They always pull out those type of desperate performances when under the pump. 53-8 in 2008. 49-33? Pretoria in 2010 and against England on the EOYT and now this one in PE. They play inspired rugby, I'm fairly sure a full strength AB side would not have done much better.
 
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Jay

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The number wasn't really an issue, more to do with they weren't going to go into the WC having not won a game. They always pull out those type of desperate performances when under the pump. 53-8 in 2008. 49-33? Pretoria in 2010 and against England on the EOYT and now this one in PE. They play inspired rugby, I'm fairly sure a full strength AB side would not have done much better.

Well, having watched that match, I gotta disagree. There was nothing particularly inspired about their performance, it was just desperation defence against a side that was essentially makeshift combinations. If the AB's had their first choice forward pack out there, they'd have been able to hold onto the ball far better and convert more of those chances that went begging.
 
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