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Or accusing them of having an endemic culture of cheating, say?
Tri Nations Game 3 New Zealand v Australia - Saturday 6 August 2011 - 3N2011
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Or accusing them of having an endemic culture of cheating, say?
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Alan Cameron (40)
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That's Aus rugby fans, not Aus rugby teams.
And it's bloody well true!
'K then. Players, coaches, IRB, refs, SANZAR, ARU, NZRU think it's rubbish.
Peter de Villiers and Aus fans think it's gospel.
Great company you've got there. :lmao:
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Greg Davis (50)
Players - have to play against NZ, also they can be fined and suspended for bringing officials or the game into disrepute
IRB - cant call out an individual team for cheating, have to be seen upholding values
Coaches - every coach playing against NZ says he hopes the refs police the breakdown in the lead up, as with players cant bring officials into it without being fined or suspended.
Refs - the lead ref is a New Zealander that has shown bias in the past, why would any of them speak out.
ARU - make alot of money off the wallabies playing new zealand and foster that relationship closely, why would they call them out on it
NZRU - do you expect them to call themselves cheats, by not doing so they basically are saying its alright to cheat and that makes them part of the problem.
Peter De Villiers is coach of a team your going to meet in the semis, you should be nicer to him he may get Eddie Jones to help him out and you dont have a good record against him.
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Greg Davis (50)
but if we lose by more does that mean the line starts to rebound in the other way, cant it be a pie chart or would it then belong in the pie thread?
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:lmao: The world's out to get you!
Referee Mark Lawrence is the highest authority to have (partly) viewed and commented on that video. His response: nothing to see here. That's good enough for me.
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Greg Davis (50)
An element of the All Blacks aura is that any kind of confidence against them is disrespectful. Opponents buy into this, even if only subconsciously, and so are at a disadvantage. I think that many Kiwi supporters buy into it as well, and so the confidence being displayed by our players at the moment comes across to (not all of) them as a form of disrespect, and the belief that you will win (a crucial element of competitive sports) as unjustified arrogance.
Some fans, not all.
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Ok and what other option did he have? Let's say that have been getting away with illegal tactics was Mark going to say yes the All Blacks are not being properly policed by my fellow IRB referee.
FWIW, I don't think the ABs are cheats at the breakdown, that's not a pre-determined action that they go into the game with, it's a grey area.
However when I've see maneuvers by players such as McCaw at the set-piece that require pre-determined actions that's a little dodgy. ie. The scrum try in Sydney and the lineout video on here recently. I believe Keiran Read said on national radio that they practised the try by McCaw in Sydney in training.
waratahjesus
Greg Davis (50)
i dont think the aussie team has disrespected the all blacks at all.
i want to say though, that go ahead and do it. We have a young team and while we argue and discuss selections here, the fact is this team can be together for the next couple of world cups and could be great if the cards fall in the right places. Its time we held our chests out and stopped pretending where underdogs in every game we play, its time to talk a game and then go out and win lose or draw just belt the crap out of whoever were playing, its time teams feared us and it should start on saturday.
ONE TEAM people, F the All blacks
i want to say though, that go ahead and do it. We have a young team and while we argue and discuss selections here, the fact is this team can be together for the next couple of world cups and could be great if the cards fall in the right places. Its time we held our chests out and stopped pretending where underdogs in every game we play, its time to talk a game and then go out and win lose or draw just belt the crap out of whoever were playing, its time teams feared us and it should start on saturday.
ONE TEAM people, F the All blacks
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Larry Dwyer (12)
Who's to say they were practising with the early dettachment though? Could've been they just got the timing wrong in the game?
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Yep. Apologies there. Just quoting Drewprint.
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Chilla Wilson (44)
I for one am happy to see Lachie Turner get a call up for this one he was probably one of out best in Sydney last year & his selection also raises a few questions about potentially planned interchanges during the game.
I wouldn't mind seeing Turner & Fainga'a coming on at some stage for McCabe & AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) with Ioane moving to 13.
I wouldn't mind seeing Turner & Fainga'a coming on at some stage for McCabe & AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) with Ioane moving to 13.
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Chilla Wilson (44)
Steve Hansen is a tosser. That's all he can do is talk shit he did it last year with the Saint Keven Mealamu headbutting incident.
You know the big loud mouth at the pub who talks shit with all his mates around him? That's Steve Hansen.
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