Who else is there?
Ready is having second season syndrome
Latu has had issues at the back end of the season
Mafi? first season, a few games
The rest are old men or have just not shown enough
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Who else is there?
Ready is having second season syndrome
Latu has had issues at the back end of the season
Mafi? first season, a few games
The rest are old men or have just not shown enough
amirite
Chilla Wilson (44)
Edgy.
Ruggo
Mark Ella (57)
Rangi looks good from what I have seen of him. Hope we see more of him.
Will see regarding Mafi. He has certainly made the most of his opportunity and credit to him for that.
Happy Moore has bowed out this way. I was looking like he was going the George Greagan route and hanging around to long as half the player he once was.
Will see regarding Mafi. He has certainly made the most of his opportunity and credit to him for that.
Happy Moore has bowed out this way. I was looking like he was going the George Greagan route and hanging around to long as half the player he once was.
Ruggo
Mark Ella (57)
Hooper will be the next Wallaby captain but its a pretty crappy decision in my view. Never seen much to suggest he is a good captain to date. Not commanding enough.
Would like to see Coleman or Carter personally. Carter has shown to be a good captain though the issue for him is he is in strong competition with Coleman and Arnold and not likely to be consistently holding down a starting spot ahead of them. Coleman is fresh and I think that could be a good thing for the Wallabies moving forward.
Would like to see Coleman or Carter personally. Carter has shown to be a good captain though the issue for him is he is in strong competition with Coleman and Arnold and not likely to be consistently holding down a starting spot ahead of them. Coleman is fresh and I think that could be a good thing for the Wallabies moving forward.
Scrubber2050
Mark Ella (57)
Hooper has player misgivings. Coleman just too inexperienced and plays on the "edge".
Bloke who is not under threat is Foley. Seems level headed, genuinely respected by his peers, speaks well but I don't know if he would be considered.
He should be !
Bloke who is not under threat is Foley. Seems level headed, genuinely respected by his peers, speaks well but I don't know if he would be considered.
He should be !
LMU
Allen Oxlade (6)
I wonder if it is the Australian Cheika Warrior camps that have highlighted to Squeak that perhaps its time to retire from Test footy.?
Killer
Cyril Towers (30)
Not sure about Hooper, not sure if he has the respect of the team. He would have to be the favourite though being Cheks boy.
As an alternative to Hooper I was trying to pick someone who the boys would follow and respect not unlike Ben Mowen.
Not a lot of choice, the only alternate player that I could see taking over the role for the series without creating discord would be Taf.
I watched him closely this year and he seemed a very good leader from afar both on and off the field.
Did he have any leadership roles at the Tahs?
As an alternative to Hooper I was trying to pick someone who the boys would follow and respect not unlike Ben Mowen.
Not a lot of choice, the only alternate player that I could see taking over the role for the series without creating discord would be Taf.
I watched him closely this year and he seemed a very good leader from afar both on and off the field.
Did he have any leadership roles at the Tahs?
Micheal
Alan Cameron (40)
Haha.
"You want an example?! Here's a bloody example! (insert vague, proof-less sweeping statement)".
AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) definitely did pass a lot more than he was given credit for. Foleys kick are definitely getting more distance than they did 2-3 years ago. Beale improved his defence out of sight in 2015/16/17.
Julian Savea is still a turnstyle in defence. So are Aaron Smith and Jordie Barrett and ALB when under pressure. Israel Dagg is very hot-and-cold under the high ball, Fekitoa has poor handling, Beaudan Barett still can't goal kick to an international standard.
Jantjies overplays his hand, Ford / Farrell can lose control of a game under pressure, Etzebeth is easily goaded into doing dumb shit, etc. etc.
Name almost any All Black / English / Welsh / South African player and I can probably find you a deficiency they've been known for their entire career.
Not necessarily doubting this view of Hooper, but I wonder what posters are basing this on?
Nothing to me shows that he doesn't have the respect of the players.
Coleman shouldn't be given the captaincy IMO. Captaincy tends to dull the enforcers ability to enforce.
Wouldn't mind Foley as a VC. He's been very active in (trying atleast) to uphold standards at the Tahs this year and he's been very talkative on the field.
eastman
John Solomon (38)
Hooper has won the John Eales medal twice. As recently as last year. This is awarded based on voting from the actual Wallaby players. This would seemingly go against the view that he is not respected by players.
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
My issue with Hooper as captain is not him setting the right examples as a player or any of that, it's some questionable option taking at times (like in knocking back points and going for the lineout nearly every time) and the fact that he doesn't seem to be able to control the discipline of the players. We have been shockingly undisciplined at times and I've even heard refs tell Hoops that it's not their problem and he should sort it out!
Viking
Mark Ella (57)
If it wasn't for the Captaincy I'd even go as far to say Carter would be struggling to hold a spot at the Brumbies. Enever and Staniforth are great prospects.
Slim 293
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Staniforth plays for the Tahs now........
The option taking is an interesting question, I agree that knocking back point is fraught with danger, especially at test level. But it appears to be the way many of the SH sides are playing at the moment. The Hurricanes is one example, in last weeks game they said that they had kicked from penalty less than 10 times all season.
I think if his coaches actually had an issue with it, it would change in a heartbeat. The runners would be out there saying "kick your f*cking goals" at the next break. But you hear more talk about momentum and intent, than missed opportunities of keeping the score board ticking over.
I disagree, I think Carter is the bed rock of the Brumbies pack. You get the same solid consistent efforts from him every week and you need guys who just do that work and can be relied on.
I think that is why Douglas is in the training camp as well, these guys too often get overlooked for someone who drops in and out of games, but shows flashes of brilliance (like Dempsey and some of the young Qld locks) and then become invisible. We see a big run or hit and don't see the guys cleaning out or as with Douglas at the Tahs, shooting in defense and bashing 10s all game.
zer0
John Thornett (49)
TSR
Andrew Slack (58)
HIs kicking game is still shit.