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Sydney Subbies 2025

Pfitzy

Phil Waugh (73)
Im no barrister but the question becomes are we comfortable we have alignment between clubs, who as you say has its first priority as player welfare, squaring off against an administrative body, a body that imposes penalties on those same clubs should they act to protect those players by forfeiting.

We should be open minded enough to review Competition Rules if and when they need to change. There was a period during COVID where Subbies didn't enforce forfeit penalties, as one example.

Unfortunately, a lot of rules exist for situations like Odyssey describes above: people trying to get around fair play in the first place.

At the same time, we've got people howling that Subbies didn't follow CC for promotion and relegation.

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Heavyd

Nicholas Shehadie (39)
I don’t think anyone is saying forfeits shouldn’t be allowed in that situation. That’s exactly what they are there for. But there still needs to be a punishment/deterrent.
Otherwise you’ll see clubs tactically forfeiting to avoid playing a “strong” club or a tough road trip. Imagine if over the last few years clubs went we aren’t going travel out to Newport or mountains cause we are likely to get beaten, let’s regroup and go again the following week. Newport miss a bunch of games leading into finals it’s a lot harder to keep that continuity going.
Have those scenarios ever really happened? In my experience Clubs do everything they can to avoid forefeits, they call on old players, ask current club legends to double up. Then if they still can’t make the numbers work they bite the bullet. I’ve never heard of a club saying I can’t be farked going to whoop whoop lets forfeit. There are a lot of forefeits across multiple comps this weekend. I would bet none of them are “tactical” and all decisions have been agonised over before being made after trying everything to avoid them.

anyways. Go the Wallabies!!
 

Odyssey_Park the 2nd

Fred Wood (13)
Have those scenarios ever really happened? In my experience Clubs do everything they can to avoid forefeits, they call on old players, ask current club legends to double up. Then if they still can’t make the numbers work they bite the bullet. I’ve never heard of a club saying I can’t be farked going to whoop whoop lets forfeit. There are a lot of forefeits across multiple comps this weekend. I would bet none of them are “tactical” and all decisions have been agonised over before being made after trying everything to avoid them.

anyways. Go the Wallabies!!
We’ve had the rules around forfeits and loosing points in for the 20 odd years I’ve been involved in Subbies. Are they the deterrent or it clubs choosing to do the “right” thing?
Yes I have seen a team choose to forfeit rather then play when the result didn’t affect them.
We say no one would bother stacking teams going into finals yet in a couple of weeks I guarantee there will be a bunch of posts here about it happening.
Clubs are always looking for that loophole to give them a jump on the rest of the teams. Hence why we have rules to discourage it.
 

John S

Peter Fenwicke (45)
Pol Pot, Stalin, Kim Jong-il… Green & Gold? All masters of censorship.

G&G Mod Squad (average age: 68) rolls in like the KGB with clipboards, banning posts faster than their beloved Barker Old Boys feel from grace.

They run the place like it’s a Cold War bunker. Dissent? Censored. Sarcasm? “Inappropriate tone.” Banter? Only if you’re one of the fossils. These blokes fear memes more than a Teals Candidate.

At this rate, I expect to see mandatory loyalty oaths to the committee and a Gulag to be set up at Porters Oval.

If I wanted to live under a regime where free speech is crushed and satire is banned, I’d join the local Mixed Netball club and hang out with a few Karens. But here? We heckle, we roast, we call it like we see it—and we drink about it later.

Rugby is about passion, not propaganda. Let the people post!

#NewportMinistryOfTruth #CensorshipDoesntWinComps #StopTheCensorshipScrum
Gee, that escalated quickly.
 
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