Super Rugby refs inconsistent?

[disco]

Ben Daley - Yellow card
Penalty at best & definitely not a blatant dirty shot on Pat Mccabe

Rory Sidey - Red card
Yellow card at best & should have been given to Gene Fairbanks for the head slam & not Sidey for a good hit.

Danny Cipriani - Penalty
Great hit on Umaga should have been turnover ball & play on for the Rebels.

Winger for the Sharks - trips Cameron Shepherd
Gets skinned by Cameron Shepherd the break is on so he trips Shepherd the ref pulls the player up has a little chat & nothing more. Surely a deliberate trip is worth a yellow card in any situation?

The Du Plessis Brothers - both attacking the head at the ruck.

1st - Jannie is the reason why Pocock ended up injured as he knew Pocock had pilfered the ball so he got him in a headlock & twisted him back I was pissed off at this dangerous act & thought Pek Cowan should have done more to help Pocock even if it meant going the knuckle.

2nd - Bismarck also thinks it's ok to attack the head of JOC (James O'Connor) at the ruck fortunately JOC (James O'Connor) wasn't injured but I was pretty pissed off that neither of the brothers were pulled up for these actions either by the Force players or the refs.

Anyway that's my little whinge as I was really looking forward to last nights triple header only to sit back and watch refs dominate & ruin the show.

 

[cyclopath]

Ben Daley - Yellow card
Penalty at best & definitely not a blatant dirty shot on Pat Mccabe

Rory Sidey - Red card
Yellow card at best & should have been given to Gene Fairbanks for the head slam & not Sidey for a good hit.

Danny Cipriani - Penalty
Great hit on Umaga should have been turnover ball & play on for the Rebels.

Winger for the Sharks - trips Cameron Shepherd
Gets skinned by Cameron Shepherd the break is on so he trips Shepherd the ref pulls the player up has a little chat & nothing more. Surely a deliberate trip is worth a yellow card in any situation?

The Du Plessis Brothers - both attacking the head at the ruck.

1st - Jannie is the reason why Pocock ended up injured as he knew Pocock had pilfered the ball so he got him in a headlock & twisted him back I was pissed off at this dangerous act & thought Pek Cowan should have done more to help Pocock even if it meant going the knuckle.

2nd - Bismarck also thinks it's ok to attack the head of JOC (James O'Connor) at the ruck fortunately JOC (James O'Connor) wasn't injured but I was pretty pissed off that neither of the brothers were pulled up for these actions either by the Force players or the refs.

Anyway that's my little whinge as I was really looking forward to last nights triple header only to sit back and watch refs dominate & ruin the show.

Agree with most of that, although I missed the Pocock incident - I hope someone has some footage up on youtube soon.
I feel sorry for Sidey - he made a good hit on Odwa, which then turned into a bad result as Fairbanks hit him across the upper chest and drove him down, resulting in the "spear" (which is wasn't, but a head-slam, which it was). As you say, Fairbanks might have deserved a yellow more than Sidey deserved anything. But at speed, hard to separate all the dynamics of such a tackle.
The Bismarck one was poor - the AR was right there, and even bent in to have a better look but decided, "Nup, OK to try to twist the head off some guy that is not even on the ball".
I'm with you on the tripping incident - that is usually an automatic yellow.

 

[Scotty]

The Pocock incident was the worst of all. Clearly attacking the head, and a wrestling type move that looked like its purpose was to injure. Bending someone backwards by reefing his head down while using your own body against his lower back. If that isn't illegal, then nothing should be.

The other one that the refs went light on was after the 'spear' tackle from Sidey. Sharks player came in for some retribution by putting a shoulder into Sidey's head. Only spoken to by the ref - but should have been a yellow.

The JOC (James O'Connor) one wasn't so bad - you see that in mauls all the time (not that it is right).

 

[qwerty51]

Spot on about the Pocock incident, I was furious when I saw it, I called it a submission hold in the match thread. It looked very deliberate in order to injure.

 

[disco]

Spot on about the Pocock incident, I was furious when I saw it, I called it a submission hold in the match thread. It looked very deliberate in order to injure.

I 2nd that. I was fucking dark about that it was a very dangerous & deliberate if I was Richard Graham I'd be preparing my side to deal with any opposition that targets Pocock illegally.

 

[#1 Tah]

How many forward passes & knock ons did the refs miss in the Tahs V crusaders game? HOW WAS LACHIE TURNER ONSIDE?????

The referees have been consistant, they have been consistantly BAD.

 

[barbarian]

Calm down #1. They have not been bad, in fact I think the refereeing so far has been quite good. Yes there have been some bad calls, but overall games have flown smoothly and the better sides have won. Foul play is an issue but we have the judiciary for that as well. I would much rather the ref manage the rucks and scrums well and occasionally misjudge on acts of foul play than the other way around.

I have been annoyed by a few acts of pure pedantry though- a couple of not straight calls have been ludicrous, someone got pinged fro not taking a penalty kick on the mark which was worse, Huxley got done for in front of the kicker off a 22 when he was running back towards his own tryline to cover fullback. But they are minor errors, and overall the refs have done a good job by and large.

 

[Shiggins]

If anyone sees the replay of the pocock incident look at yani's face. He is putting so much effort into hurting pocock. He should get at least 6 weeks. Someone should of punched the piss out of him.

Go the force!!!!

 

[Gnostic]

If anyone sees the replay of the pocock incident look at yani's face. He is putting so much effort into hurting pocock. He should get at least 6 weeks. Someone should of punched the piss out of him.

Go the force!!!!

Shock Saffa players in thuggery allegations.

 

[canowindra]

David Pocock tweeted that jannie had said " next time I 'll break your f*cking neck", So was obviously done with some intent.

 

[Ruggo]

I know this is against the flow of the thread but Dickinson had a good game in the Bulls, Clan game in what was a great game of footy to watch. I would be happy for the refs to blow the pea out of the whistle exactly to the letter of the law with zeo tolerance for the next couple of weeks and make it upto the players and coaches to clean the game up.

 

[cyclopath]

Calm down #1. They have not been bad, in fact I think the refereeing so far has been quite good. Yes there have been some bad calls, but overall games have flown smoothly and the better sides have won. Foul play is an issue but we have the judiciary for that as well. I would much rather the ref manage the rucks and scrums well and occasionally misjudge on acts of foul play than the other way around.

I have been annoyed by a few acts of pure pedantry though- a couple of not straight calls have been ludicrous, someone got pinged fro not taking a penalty kick on the mark which was worse, Huxley got done for in front of the kicker off a 22 when he was running back towards his own tryline to cover fullback. But they are minor errors, and overall the refs have done a good job by and large.

You have much greater faith in the judiciary than I do, BaaBaa.

David Pocock tweeted that jannie had said " next time I 'll break your f*cking neck", So was obviously done with some intent.

If that is indeed true, that is abysmal. Obviously no-one can act on hearsay, but Janie du Plessis has plummeted in my opinion after this episode. Just appalling to (allegedly) intentionally injure another player in such a manner, and (allegedly) back it up with such a statement. Gutless.

 

[canowindra]

Pocock then went on to say "Jannie. Du Plessis, #Sharks prop & all round good guy.Haha, what a good bloke." obviously does not follow the " do no harm" doctrine of his profession!

 

[qwerty51]

David Pocock tweeted that jannie had said " next time I 'll break your f*cking neck", So was obviously done with some intent.

Ok I just checked it out. That's disgusting.

How can he not be suspended for purposely trying to injure a player? It was illegal play since he attacked the head/neck.

 

[Budgie]

David Pocock tweeted that jannie had said " next time I 'll break your f*cking neck", So was obviously done with some intent.

And what is going to happen to the perp when they actually break someones "...f*king neck"?

Give the Du Plessis boys the contact details of a mungoball player manager in the hope of landing them a contract outside rugby.

 

[Eyes and Ears]

Rory Sidey - Red card
Yellow card at best & should have been given to Gene Fairbanks for the head slam & not Sidey for a good hit.

You will find out tomorrow if the judiciary agree with you. If they think red, then he will be suspended. If they think yellow, he will be acquited. My best guess is that he will get 2-3 weeks off.

 

[qwerty51]

You will find out tomorrow if the judiciary agree with you. If they think red, then he will be suspended. If they think yellow, he will be acquited. My best guess is that he will get 2-3 weeks off.

Doesn't the colour of the card count for anything? IMO, red = no suspension. I hate reds, ruins games.

 

[Eyes and Ears]

Doesn't the colour of the card count for anything?

Not in the judiciary process.

 

[MajorlyRagerly]

I don't think any games were ruined by referee's this weekend. By and large there was a lot of calls which weren't great, but the results/scoreline of each match seemed to reflect what I saw.

Teams spend so much time looking at referee's to work out what/where they can get away with and studying individual refs etc. You cant expect one man to pick up every single incident bang on correct, especially in a game where the laws are so complex.

Personally I don't think refereeing appointments should be announced. You should learn whose reffing when you run onto the field - takes out some of that analysis.

 

[Blue]

Shock Saffa players in thuggery allegations.

You all watch too much MMA. Submission holds.

Button down boys. I can probably go through footage of the weekend games and pick out dangerous play at the ruck from Saffers, Kiwis and Aussies. There's a bit of free for all when it comes to clearing out and it has been going on for a long time.

I have for a long time thouht the refs are not pinging players for headlocks when clearing out. Unfortunaltey this one resulted in an injury.

Wanna know how Brussow got a season ending injury last year? He was on his haunches, got grabbed around the neck and pulled the wrong way while his leg was trapped. it even happended after the whistle. Oh it was a dirty Kiwi who did it.

Really the "dirty Saffa" card is boring and old. Get over it. What, an Aussie player has never put another player i na headlock at ruck time? Seriously, get a grip.