Super Rugby AU Team of the Week

[Merrow]

1. Orr
2. McInerny
3. HJH (Harry Johnson-Holmes)
4. Phillip
5. Neville
6. McCaffrey
7. Hooper
8. Dempsey
9. White
10. Kuenzle
11. Wright
12. To'omua
13. Walton
14. Muirhead
15. Banks

16. Uelese
17. Sio
18. Ala'alatoa
19. Hanigan
20. Samu
21. Gordon
22. Simone
23. Maddocks

 

[KOB1987]

I think every time I post I duplicate names. Meant to be Maddocks.

which is 15, Hodge or Maddocks?

 

[Dctarget]

which is 15, Hodge or Maddocks?

Maddocks is 15, Hodge is 23.

 

[KOB1987]

GAGR team of the week:

1. C. Orr (REB)
2. J. Uelese (REB)
3. H. Johnson-Holmes (WAR)
4. M. Philip (REB)
5. C. Neville (BRU)
6. J. Dempsey (WAR)
7. M. Hooper (WAR)
8. I. Naisarani (REB)
9. J. Gordon (WAR)
10. B. Kuenzle (BRU)
11. A. Muirhead BRU)
12. M. To'omua (REB)
13. J. Walton (WAR)
14. T. Wright (BRU)
15. T. Banks (BRU)

16. C. McInereny (BRU)
17. J. Slipper (BRU)
18. A. Ala'alatoa (BRU)
19. N. Hanigan (WAR)
20. F. Lee-Warner (FOR)
21. N. White (BRU)
22. W. Harrison (WAR)
23. M. Koroibete (REB)

Players of the round - Hooper & Walton

 

[KOB1987]

This week's cumulative team, the first with each team playing the same number of games:

1. C. Orr (REB)
2. J. Uelese (REB)
3. T. Tupou (RED)
4. M. Philip (REB)
5. L. Solokai-Loto (RED)
6. L. Wright (RED)
7. M. Hooper (WAR)
8. I. Naisarani (REB)
9. T. McDermott (RED)
10. J. O’Connor (RED)
11. F. Daugunu (RED)
12. M. To'omua (REB)
13. J. Petaia (RED)
14. T. Wright (BRU)
15. J. Maddocks (WAR)

16. B. Paenga-Amosa (RED)
17. J. Slipper (BRU)
18. H. Johnson-Holmes (WAR)
19. A. Blyth (RED)
20. J. Dempsey (WAR)
21. J. Gordon (WAR)
22. I. Simone (BRU)
23. M. Koroibete (REB)

Top scoring player - Tupou

 

[wamberal]

Not a bad squad.

 

[Up the Guts]

Orr has quietly amassed votes, should more be made of him?

 

[KOB1987]

Just for interest, and because it's going to be a 46 man squad, this is the 'B' team. Would love to see these teams play each other:

1. T. Robertson (WAR)
2. T. Horton (WAR)
3. A. Ala'alatoa (BRU)
4. N. Hanigan (WAR)
5. C. Neville (BRU)
6. H. Wilson (RED)
7. F. McReight (RED)
8. P. Samu (BRU)
9. N. White (BRU)
10. W. Harrison (WAR)
11. A. Muirhead (BRU)
12. K. Hunt (WAR)
13. C. Magnay (REB)
14. J. Ramm (WAR)
15. T. Banks (BRU)

16. F. Fainga'a (BRU)
17. S. Sio (BRU)
18. P. Fa'amausili (REB)
19. T. Hosea (REB)
20. R. Valetini (BRU)
21. J. Powell (BRU)
22. B. Kuenzle (BRU)
23. J. Campbell (RED)

 

[Brumby Runner]

Not a bad squad.

True, but too many Brumbies. Has no chance of reflecting the real coaches' team.

 

[Mr Wobbly]

Just for interest, and because it's going to be a 46 man squad, this is the 'B' team. Would love to see these teams play each other:

*snip

Yes! I really like the idea of a Baa Baa's style "All Star" game. Could be coached by each of the grand final coaches.

Much better idea than SoU, IMHO.

 

[Rebels3]

Orr has quietly amassed votes, should more be made of him?

Has been very good all season but in all honesty 4th in line for the LH role. Slipper, Sio and HJH (Harry Johnson-Holmes) (according to PONI), that seems about right to me as well.

 

[dru]

This week's cumulative team, the first with each team playing the same number of games:

1. C. Orr (REB)
2. J. Uelese (REB)
3. T. Tupou (RED)
4. M. Philip (REB)
5. L. Solokai-Loto (RED)
6. L. Wright (RED)
7. M. Hooper (WAR)
8. I. Naisarani (REB)
9. T. McDermott (RED)
10. J. O’Connor (RED)
11. F. Daugunu (RED)
12. M. To'omua (REB)
13. J. Petaia (RED)
14. T. Wright (BRU)
15. J. Maddocks (WAR)

16. B. Paenga-Amosa (RED)
17. J. Slipper (BRU)
18. H. Johnson-Holmes (WAR)
19. A. Blyth (RED)
20. J. Dempsey (WAR)
21. J. Gordon (WAR)
22. I. Simone (BRU)
23. M. Koroibete (REB)

Top scoring player - Tupou

I think this is a very good view of the cumulative form team - but it surprises that there are so few Brumbies given that they are the form team.

 

[Wilson]

I think this is a very good view of the cumulative form team - but it surprises that there are so few Brumbies given that they are the form team.

I think that might reflect their quality across the park. Also given the changes they've made in their last two games, and the returning players (Banks, White, Neville) they may have less games per player across the voting period.

 

[KOB1987]

I think that might reflect their quality across the park. Also given the changes they've made in their last two games, and the returning players (Banks, White, Neville) they may have less games per player across the voting period.

The first round scored was when the Brumbies played appallingly v the Rebels. That round drops out and is replaced by the current one so as long as the Brumbies play well a few more will sneak in.

 

[Wilson]

The first round scored was when the Brumbies played appallingly v the Rebels. That round drops out and is replaced by the current one so as long as the Brumbies play well a few more will sneak in.

Is it not the first brumbies v reds game that drops out for this one?

 

[KOB1987]

Is it not the first brumbies v reds game that drops out for this one?

Apologies you are correct. So the round that the Brumbies played crap in will remain for the final scoring, a few need to lift this weekend!

 

[KOB1987]

True, but too many Brumbies. Has no chance of reflecting the real coaches' team.

Who cares, if the real coach wants a say he can join up and vote like everyone else.

 

[Brumby Runner]

All good KOB. Not a criticism of the exercise which I've taken part in every week.

But I do think the small representation of the Brumbies is more complicated than the one poorer performance against the Rebels. It more likely, imo, reflects a smaller voting population among Brumbies fans. You might be able to confirm that. So, if t8hree Brumbies fans vote for Sio, for example, and eight Rebels fans vote for Orr, then there is some skew in the result possibly reflecting team bias rather than indicating superior performance. Same could be said for other positions like Maddocks tallying fewer votes than Campbell (just an example).

Is there some way to correct for differences in team's supporters? Maybe some sort of average over the number of inputs from supporters from each of the five teams?

 

[KOB1987]

All good KOB. Not a criticism of the exercise which I've taken part in every week.

But I do think the small representation of the Brumbies is more complicated than the one poorer performance against the Rebels. It more likely, imo, reflects a smaller voting population among Brumbies fans. You might be able to confirm that. So, if t8hree Brumbies fans vote for Sio, for example, and eight Rebels fans vote for Orr, then there is some skew in the result possibly reflecting team bias rather than indicating superior performance. Same could be said for other positions like Maddocks tallying fewer votes than Campbell (just an example).

Is there some way to correct for differences in team's supporters? Maybe some sort of average over the number of inputs from supporters from each of the five teams?

In theory you are right. Someone brought this up a couple of weeks ago and I looked at the results and figured that if I removed all the votes for players who are from the franchise that the voter supports the results would be largely the same because inevitably the player who is voted in has caught the attention of voters outside his supporter base.

It's an exercise I'm prepared to do, but only once as it would be very manual, and there are different voters each week. So I will do it after this round on the 'form team of the season (last 5 rounds)'.

 

[cyclopath]

Who knows, maybe rugby fans could be "voting for" the players they reckon are best, even if they're not from the franchise with which they are aligned? Maybe not accounting for the odd skew that so few Brumbies are in the cumulative team, but this process does not necessarily reward the best "team", and take into account the best drilled playing group, maybe.
I like it, for what it is.