Super Rugby AU Round 6 - Waratahs vs Reds @ SCG, Saturday 8 August 2020
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Desmond Connor (43)
Stand corrected - 8 weeks.
Something has gone seriously wrong when a player debuts and comes off the field crying because he THINKS he let down the team. He should be celebrating and not look back on this experience with regret. The coaches got this wrong because they are introducing a player that is not ready for the step in to Super Rugby. There is no question that he has what it takes with great coaching in months/years to come but now the coaches have to work even harder to get his confidence back up, let alone concentrating on his skill and experience. I feel for the kid because it wasn’t him who got it wrong.
I really think you're reading too much into it. Different people deal with emotions in different ways. He would have been excited and nervous and then he unfortunately got carded in a game his team were getting flogged and his emotions manifested the way they did.
He was only 6 months younger than the guy who he was scrummaging against.
I didn't see the crying on the replay. He looked fine when he was carded and was walking off the field.
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Dick Tooth (41)
It was after the match when he was crying. Was being consoled by Tupou
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Tony Shaw (54)
Getting carded in your very first game a couple of minutes after you got put on is pretty devastating. Not surprised he was upset, anyone would be. Given that the whole front row was getting mullered it was more a team yellow, but that wouldn't make him feel much better.
He just has to get back up and go again next week. He will learn from this.
Jock Campbell missed a tackle on Ramm before the chip. That was when it could have been stopped.
Back to Nonggorr, the guy on the other side of the scrum is a 27 year old New Zealander who has played a bit of NPC. Hard to work out from the replay that he was any better in the scrum whatsoever but would the Reds really be better off having another player like that getting some Super Rugby minutes than Nonggorr?
He's going to be a star and I highly doubt his debut is going to damage his progression or confidence.
He's going to be a star and I highly doubt his debut is going to damage his progression or confidence.
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David Wilson (68)
Zane went straight through his opposing prop on his first scrum. Things only got wobbly with the intentionally long pause by the Tahs at the feed. Being carded was on the back of the front row warning. I'd be sticking with the guy.
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John Eales (66)
Yeah I think he's going to be fine. Looks like he can play a bit.
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Andrew Slack (58)
It’s a big ask for the young guy and I’d much rather he had 1-2 years coming through the system and playing prems.
But it’s also a big ask in a professional franchise to cover a spot when they lost a contracted senior THP at the start of the season and have subsequently been plagued by injuries. Plus they can’t just rope anyone in at short notice with the COVID 19 restrictions.
Given pretty much every prop has been yellow carded at some point I can’t see it’ll be an issue for him going forward. I’d actually suggest that on such a poor night his debut would be one of very few highlights for the Reds.’
But it’s also a big ask in a professional franchise to cover a spot when they lost a contracted senior THP at the start of the season and have subsequently been plagued by injuries. Plus they can’t just rope anyone in at short notice with the COVID 19 restrictions.
Given pretty much every prop has been yellow carded at some point I can’t see it’ll be an issue for him going forward. I’d actually suggest that on such a poor night his debut would be one of very few highlights for the Reds.’
There was a moment in the first 20 minutes that nearly ended in disaster. The Tahs kicked through, Hegarty chased back but then slipped when he was coming back with the ball. He went to ground and tripped up Jock Campbell who was chasing back. It looked like Campbell was a bit sore from it and maybe tweaked his knee but it could have been disastrous.
Potential for a serious leg break like Gary Rowan in the AFL a few years ago when a player slid into him and caused them to change the rules.
Campbell came off soon afterwards and he'd also had a head knock and was playing terribly so I'm not sure what the final reason for him leaving the field was.
Potential for a serious leg break like Gary Rowan in the AFL a few years ago when a player slid into him and caused them to change the rules.
Campbell came off soon afterwards and he'd also had a head knock and was playing terribly so I'm not sure what the final reason for him leaving the field was.
Sometimes we complicate the way we look at teams, and games.
When you boil it down, the Tahs first half was so good because they made virtually no mistakes. They didn't do anything that wild tactically, it was just good accurate catch-and-pass, runners hitting the ball at pace, making good forward momentum and then using space out wide with straight running lines.
It was great rugby in its most basic form. Sure the Reds line speed just wasn't there, and they couldn't win a lineout, but the Waratahs might have made two unforced errors all half, which is as low as I can remember.
The handling skills from the forwards was also noteworthy. Guys like HJH (Harry Johnson-Holmes), Robertson, Staniforth throwing accurate, well-timed passes. Was lovely to watch.
So call me a wild thinker, but the lesson for the Tahs should be that if you eliminate all errors, you probably win the game.
When you boil it down, the Tahs first half was so good because they made virtually no mistakes. They didn't do anything that wild tactically, it was just good accurate catch-and-pass, runners hitting the ball at pace, making good forward momentum and then using space out wide with straight running lines.
It was great rugby in its most basic form. Sure the Reds line speed just wasn't there, and they couldn't win a lineout, but the Waratahs might have made two unforced errors all half, which is as low as I can remember.
The handling skills from the forwards was also noteworthy. Guys like HJH (Harry Johnson-Holmes), Robertson, Staniforth throwing accurate, well-timed passes. Was lovely to watch.
So call me a wild thinker, but the lesson for the Tahs should be that if you eliminate all errors, you probably win the game.
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Steve Williams (59)
And I would say a lesson for the young Reds that there are times when the opposition are just too good and everything goes right for them. Happened to the ABs against us in Perth last year. I would be surprised if the Reds had a similar catastrophe this week.
Two in particular spring to mind. The first one was Jake Gordon's opening try. So often I feel like that last pass gets dropped cold with the line open just because the pass is slightly astray (although Hunt really got the pass right this time). It's almost like the support runner doesn't actually expect the pass to come to them.
The second was Newsome's try. The pass went out in front of Tom Horton who juggled it one handed and then passed on to Dempsey and then Newsome to score. Horton's skills were very impressive but most of the time that gets dropped and the try butchered.
It felt like Newsome has been practicing that given he did it twice during the game.
Maybe Dempsey thought that given they were up 31-0 he'd give Newsome the chance to put it into practice.
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Ted Fahey (11)
Don’t forget Angus Bell (first season) got carded in the first game when he was against Tupou. I’m sure he get back up on the horse with the support he was getting after the game
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Dick Tooth (41)
He would have been bolstered having held his end up on a few occasions and being named in the PONI squad. But yes he got owned that night and it was a reality check
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Michael Lynagh (62)
Angus bell getting owned by Tupou that night was part of his rite of passage.
No shame at 19 getting owned by one of probably worlds best tight head props early in his career.
No shame at 19 getting owned by one of probably worlds best tight head props early in his career.