Rebel man
John Thornett (49)
Also less scrums and less resets, I love a good scrum and I like the fact they are contested unlike the group hugs they have in league. But the constant resets do get a bit much so reducing the amount of scrums is good
Super Rugby 2022
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Drew
Bob Davidson (42)
Ok, thanks. Didn’t realise that was the case. Still think held up should be a scrum though
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
And commercial reality pretty key given competition for fans and indeed success of other codes encroaching on rugby…Yep commercial reality!
PhilClinton
Mark Loane (55)
Not just fans but those playing the game at grassroots as well.
I wonder how long until some of these changes filter down to QPR and SS.
I’ve been a part of two drawn semi-finals as a coach way back when, the players on the field were screaming to play for a result (well at least mine were, they knew how the draw result ended for us…)
Even this season just gone in Queensland club rugby I believe there was an unprecedented number of games in the finals with a drawn result, so the higher team on the ladder goes through etc etc. I bet those blokes would have preferred to go down fighting.
Dan54
David Wilson (68)
Phil as you say your team was screaming for a result, because they knew what a draw did for them? My answer would be it's in the players hands, if they NEED to get a winning result they need to do it. I hear people say how players hate a draw, well when I played I hated a loss, but if we weren't good enough to win, unfortunately that was what happened. I have never got the need to play extra time, a draw is a result and a game that is meant to be played over 80 minutes of playing time. And even now it can still be a draw after extra time, so really it's just making game longer.
Though as I said I understand the commercial reality, it's what happens in sport in this day and age, I not sure it makes game better.
John S
Chilla Wilson (44)
Do we know if team announcements are going to happen all at once like in Super Rugby AU or are we back to team announcements 48 hours before kick off of each game?
Rebel man
John Thornett (49)
Surely all at once, would be a step in the wrong direction to go the other way
Wilson
Phil Kearns (64)
First announcements are this evening, but it's not clear if it'll be all of them. rugby.com.au just posted this to their instagram, so there definitely trying to make a thing of it:
Caption is "The first wave of teams for the opening round of #SuperRugbyPacific to be announced today 5pm AEDT. Stay tuned!". First wave for the opening round makes it sound like it won't be all of them though.
Dan54
David Wilson (68)
Isn't the norm for Friday night's games to be released tonight (48hrs before) and Staurday's tomorrow night? Putting a lot of pressue on wanting teams named 3-4 days before they play. Once season is underway, coaches will want time to see how players are after a few days rest surely?
Rebel man
John Thornett (49)
It’s not that hard. Just do it Thursday night at 6 like the AFL have managed for 100 or more years
Wilson
Phil Kearns (64)
Hope that's just a media document and not the official write up the competition is using - the golden point section on competition points appears to be incomplete and is just generally really vague - e.g. doesn't specifically cover bonus points in the situation where team A has 3 tries more than Team B in regular time but then team B wins with a try in golden point. It appears the 3 try bp from regular time is respected in this case, even though it can still be earned in extra time in the alternate scenario described. I don't really mind one way or the other, but if it's that inconsistent it really should be clearly stated, not just implied.
No Idea why they didn't just put together a proper matrix with all the possible permutations, it's not that complex, I did it in about 10 minutes:
| Team A wins GP with a penalty/drop goal | Team A wins GP with a try | Team B wins GP with a penalty/drop goal | Team B wins GP with a try | Draw | |
| Team A has 3 tries more than Team B in regular time | Team A win and 3try BP, team B losing BP | Team A win and 3try BP, team B losing BP | Team A losing BP and 3try BP, team B win | Team A losing BP and ???, team B win | Team A 3try BP, Draw points for both |
| Team A has 2 tries more than Team B in regular time | Team A win, team B losing BP | Team A win and 3try BP, Team B losing BP | Team A losing BP, team B win | Team A losing BP, team B win | Draw points for both |
It's total tries at the end of golden point. So if you are up by 3 tries, the match is tied then you lose to a try in golden point you are only up by 2 tries so you would just get one bonus point for losing by 7 or less.