Super Rugby 2022

[hoggy]

I right though aren't I? And I keep saying it not about playing TT etc, but a 5-6 team comp is not going to maintain interest, RA knows this why they keep wanting TT etc. I can tell you I reckon for me by far the best comp is NZ's NPC, good rugby, noone guaranteed of winning, and enough different teams you don't need 2 round comp, that's what I suggesting Aus wants because playing same team every 4-5 weeks is a problem. I even almost find the English and French comps more interesting than a 5-6 team comp generally as you getting difference of games etc.
Or perhaps you now telling us that Hamish and his crew are wrong?

No Hamish and his crew aren't wrong, its just that after 20 years of Super (world domination) rugby) they're fucking broke.

 

[zer0]

Pretty sure we have a containment thread for this particularly tedious brand of bullshittery.

 

[John S]

Pretty sure we have a containment thread for this particularly tedious brand of bullshittery.

The "Where to for Super...." thread?

 

[dru]

The "Where to for Super...." thread?

We’ve still got Super Rugby Pacific looking rocky on the back of NZ Govt reaction to Omicron (we have a thread for that too) and Aus govt not necessarily looking solid either. RA have been talking about contingency planning including season back-ending the TT matches.

It's inevitable that some fans will voice a preference for the contingency and it is a set of topics that fit this thread.

I do get the feed back though and discussions - such as those centred on the RA ditching a domestic, or the logic behind primacy of a Domestic comp, etc - should probably be carved out.

Disinterest in the Kiwi teams, especially in games predictably thumping the Aus teams, is likely to be an on-going theme through the year all the same.

 

[Adam84]

I right though aren't I? And I keep saying it not about playing TT etc, but a 5-6 team comp is not going to maintain interest, RA knows this why they keep wanting TT etc. I can tell you I reckon for me by far the best comp is NZ's NPC, good rugby, noone guaranteed of winning, and enough different teams you don't need 2 round comp, that's what I suggesting Aus wants because playing same team every 4-5 weeks is a problem. I even almost find the English and French comps more interesting than a 5-6 team comp generally as you getting difference of games etc.
Or perhaps you now telling us that Hamish and his crew are wrong?

No you are not right and I don’t care to go down this rabbit hole again with you.

 

[Derpus]

Pretty sure we have a containment thread for this particularly tedious brand of bullshittery.

My fault.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

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My fault.

no COVIDs fault and that leading to plan b discussions opening up revisiting super rugby au discussions which plan b considerations about.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

A domestic competition is not just playing ourselves though, This narrative that somehow we're retreating to some king of North Korean euotopia by playing a domestic competition.
The Wallabies will still be playing upto 15 Tests a year (and thats another issue), there will always be crossover games scheduled.

The big shock maybe in 10/15 years time when having a far bigger playing pool to select from due actual domestic growth.

Yeah. It should be the main element not the entire thing.

 

[Dan54]

No Hamish and his crew aren't wrong, its just that after 20 years of Super (world domination) rugby) they're fucking broke.

So in other words they need Super to pay bills, which obviously means it's best for Aus rugby!!! And unfortunately all RUs have to have to run the comp that makes the most money, whether we like it or not (and usually because they make most because more people end up paying to watch it) Cheers for backing me up mate! But anyway, that's probably got nothing to do with 2022.

 

[Dan54]

No you are not right and I don’t care to go down this rabbit hole again with you.

Of course you aren't because the official figures back up what I said 100%!!

 

[Dan54]

We’ve still got Super Rugby Pacific looking rocky on the back of NZ Govt reaction to Omicron (we have a thread for that too) and Aus govt not necessarily looking solid either. RA have been talking about contingency planning including season back-ending the TT matches.

It's inevitable that some fans will voice a preference for the contingency and it is a set of topics that fit this thread.

I do get the feed back though and discussions - such as those centred on the RA ditching a domestic, or the logic behind primacy of a Domestic comp, etc - should probably be carved out.

Disinterest in the Kiwi teams, especially in games predictably thumping the Aus teams, is likely to be an on-going theme through the year all the same.

Yep I agree especially if the TT is at end like last year. It not a good way to run a comp, but guessing 'needs must' come into play

 

[Dan54]

But getting back to the comp, who is feeling confident? Is it Reds and Brumbies for Aus part next year? How strong will Force be?
In NZ I still think it Crusaders or Blues, with someone like Chiefs being not too far away. I have a feeling that much will depend on which one The Clan (or maybe Canes) upset so making a difference in home finals etc!

 

[Derpus]

But getting back to the comp, who is feeling confident? Is it Reds and Brumbies for Aus part next year? How strong will Force be?
In NZ I still think it Crusaders or Blues, with someone like Chiefs being not too far away. I have a feeling that much will depend on which one The Clan (or maybe Canes) upset so making a difference in home finals etc!

Crusaders should walk it. Blues only won the TT element last year because of its strange formatting. When they actually played the Crusaders they had nothing on them.

 

[Dan54]

Crusaders should walk it. Blues only won the TT element last year because of its strange formatting. When they actually played the Crusaders they had nothing on them.

Yep, I actually think the Blues maybe a bit stronger this year, I actually think they may have a bit more confidence,plus I believe Mounga may not play early part of season, Crusaders may be favourites (and I say maybe) but not overly convinced. I also a little suspicious that the Chiefs may go pretty well if Ioane performs at 10, they seem to have a few good players in pack with Cane, Retallic back to join the bloody good young un's in there. I still think Reds could cause an awful lot of problems if it a full comp was played as drawn.

 

[Drew]

The Aussie teams looked like shell shocked kids in the first weeks of Super Rugby TT. They didn’t seem used to the size of the opposition. As the season progressed we became more competitive. Super Rugby AU was good to watch, but if our aim is to build a stronger wallabies using mostly domestic players we need to play better opposition regularly. That’s just my opinion unfortunately Covid or one of its offspring might have a say in TT going forward.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Crusaders should walk it. Blues only won the TT element last year because of its strange formatting. When they actually played the Crusaders they had nothing on them.

Well if that doesn't awaken Dr WFT Blundershart III, nothing will

 

[Derpus]

Well if that doesn't awaken Dr WFT Blundershart III, nothing will

Where is that fluffybunny anyway

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

^ summering on Pitcairn, probably.

 

[Tomikin]

The Aussie teams looked like shell shocked kids in the first weeks of Super Rugby TT. They didn’t seem used to the size of the opposition. As the season progressed we became more competitive. Super Rugby AU was good to watch, but if our aim is to build a stronger wallabies using mostly domestic players we need to play better opposition regularly. That’s just my opinion unfortunately Covid or one of its offspring might have a say in TT going forward.

You mean when the Brumbies went with in a bee dick in beating the Crusaders away..

 

[dru]

The Aussie teams looked like shell shocked kids in the first weeks of Super Rugby TT. They didn’t seem used to the size of the opposition. As the season progressed we became more competitive. Super Rugby AU was good to watch, but if our aim is to build a stronger wallabies using mostly domestic players we need to play better opposition regularly. That’s just my opinion unfortunately Covid or one of its offspring might have a say in TT going forward.

That is an incomplete assessment, but given sensitivities here on the topic I'll leave it there.