Springboks vs Wallabies @ Newlands 27/9/2014

[barbarian]

I don't think we can be too unhappy with that, the final scoreline certainly wasn't indicative of the game situation.

This is about where we stand at the moment. The Boks played well, and cut the little errors that plagued them in Perth. So to have our noses in front at the 70 minute mark in a physical game has to be a positive.

But ultimately the pressure of those minutes told in the end. We did well to hold out the Boks for those periods of 18 or 19 phases, but it cost us in the long run.

Our decision making in their 22 was especially poor. In South Africa you aren't going to have many chances, so you'd better fucking well take them. And we took zero. Those fucking grubber kicks! Fuck me. Patience lads.

To'omua was very poor, and Phipps wasn't much better. We needed more out of Hooper and McCalman as well, both were outplayed by their opposites.

Kuridrani and obvious Aus MotM, with Fardy not far behind (welcome back). Front row was also outstanding, and something we have taken for granted all series.

 

[Viking]

I think the Phipps (was it?) kick, when the Wallabies were hot on attack perhaps sums up for me one of Wallabies biggest weaknesses, it was obviously a planned move, with a quick look should not have really been attempted even if it was called. It is called heads up rugby, don't just play to set moves, sometimes you have to see whats happening and let instincts take over.

Despite that lack in judegment, Phipps had a really good game I thought. Ran well, was fast to the breakdwon, passed well, I even saw a well-executed box kick. Great game from him.

 

[Tomikin]

yep, considering Fardy and carter have been getting starts with there performances.

They both had big games last night..

 

[Viking]

I don't think we can be too unhappy with that, the final scoreline certainly wasn't indicative of the game situation.

This is about where we stand at the moment. The Boks played well, and cut the little errors that plagued them in Perth. So to have our noses in front at the 70 minute mark in a physical game has to be a positive.

But ultimately the pressure of those minutes told in the end. We did well to hold out the Boks for those periods of 18 or 19 phases, but it cost us in the long run.

Our decision making in their 22 was especially poor. In South Africa you aren't going to have many chances, so you'd better fucking well take them. And we took zero. Those fucking grubber kicks! Fuck me. Patience lads.

To'omua was very poor, and Phipps wasn't much better. We needed more out of Hooper and McCalman as well, both were outplayed by their opposites.

Kuridrani and obvious Aus MotM, with Fardy not far behind (welcome back). Front row was also outstanding, and something we have taken for granted all series.

Gee I think your a bit harsh on those players. Phipps I thought did well, To'omua defended well, Hooper defended well, McCalman did loads of dirty work.

We had 70minutes of top-shelf rugby, I'd be more critical of other players, mainly the bench. Beale, Higgers, Horne, Cowen.

 

[Tomikin]

I think the Phipps (was it?) kick, when the Wallabies were hot on attack perhaps sums up for me one of Wallabies biggest weaknesses, it was obviously a planned move, with a quick look should not have really been attempted even if it was called. It is called heads up rugby, don't just play to set moves, sometimes you have to see whats happening and let instincts take over.
All in all a bloody good test, as a reasonable neutral I think anyone using ref excuses etc are just making themselves look stupid and hope everyone will realise that and most Auusie supporters will agree I am sure it was a fair result and a good test!

I don't think Phipps had a bad game but he slipped from recent standards bit slower and had some brain farts. I would have changed it up with 15 to go given White a chance..

P.s Phipps to start again next week

 

[barbarian]

Gee I think your a bit harsh on those players. Phipps I thought did well, To'omua defended well, Hooper defended well, McCalman did loads of dirty work.

We had 70minutes of top-shelf rugby, I'd be more critical of other players, mainly the bench. Beale, Higgers, Horne, Cowen.

They all defended well, but I struggle to think of a positive contribution To'omua had with ball in hand. All I remember is poor, aimless kicks.

And Phipps was OK, but his option taking and passing was a step back from last week.

No-one had a shocker, and overall it was a good effort.
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[Viking]

First thoughts. What a bloody good game of rugby too watch. I think that was the best 70minutes of rugby we played in a long time. Sorry about the last 10.

Slipper, Kepu, Carter, McCalman, Hooper good games.

Kuridrani MOTM - He was Mortlock-esque. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) I thought was anonymous until he bagged his try then lifted to have a great game.

I thought Phipps did well. Passed well and directed well. Made some good runs too. Had a brain-snap with this grubber, but I saw a well-waited box kick too. More good then bad I thought.

Tomane. His 1v1 with Hougart he could have done better, should have pinned his ears like AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) did and just tried a palm off if necessary. Looks to get on the back-foot a bit on defence but not sure who's at fault in those situations (when it looks like an overlap). He was strong in contact in all his other carries and his rucking was good too.

To'omua defended well but easily outplayed by JDV.

Bench was horrible and I blame them for the loss.
Beale - what a horrible display, I think it was 3 turn-overs he gave away, a penalty, and of coarse some poor defence.

Higgers didn't do much, Horne was horrible too which is unlike him.

 

[Lorenzo]

LOL. I'm possibly the least sensitive person you don't know in person but somehow do on the Internet. I stand by my statement: you've had nary a positive thing to say about Australian rugby or the Wallabies since you showed up here.

What's the difference? The wallabies have looked pretty average since I got here.

And since you seem to care about what I think or post - note that I was all over Kuridrani's reintroduction to the 15, declaring AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) to be likely resigned to the bench or the wing for RWC. I copped a bunch of shit for that because AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) is a bit of a fan favourite and he was the "form" 13 in Super Rugby, but TK has since been close to our best player.

There are plenty of blind homer types here drinking whatever koolaid link chooses to serve up already.

 

[BDA]

Well I thought the Wallabies played very well for the first 60 minutes but just couldn't hold on in the end. jet lag may have played a part in the poor finish. A valient effort though. the starting forward pack surely silenced a few critics. Fardy had a great game, and I thought Saia Fainga'a was very effective, and IMO he has arguably moved himself up in the pecking order with that performance. The second row also did a good job.

The bench players (Beale, Higgers, Alexander, Hansen) failed to make an impact. I wouldn't be surprised to see Beale fall out of the 23 when Cooper returns next month. With JOC (James O'Connor), Speight, Hunt in next year, I'm not sure Beale would make my team.

 

[Viking]

They all defended well, but I struggle to think of a positive contribution To'omua had with ball in hand. All I remember is poor, aimless kicks.

And Phipps was OK, but his option taking and passing was a step back from last week.

No-one had a shocker, and overall it was a good effort.
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Yes you are right I can't re-call one either for To'omua I can't see a resonable replacement tho. Goodwin or maybe Lilo. Beale is not an option after that game.

I didn't notice Phipps passing to be too bad. I re-call one pass to no-one. I thought he did more good then bad.

 

[Viking]

I forgot to mention how bloody good it is too see Fardy back firing. Great game from him.

 

[Slim 293]

Kuridrani - I don't get it. He looks like he should be good but he's not.

 

[Viking]

Well I thought the Wallabies played very well for the first 60 minutes but just couldn't hold on in the end. jet lag may have played a part in the poor finish. A valient effort though. the starting forward pack surely silenced a few critics. Fardy had a great game, and I thought Saia Fainga'a was very effective, and IMO he has arguably moved himself up in the pecking order with that performance. The second row also did a good job.

The bench players (Beale, Higgers, Alexander, Hansen) failed to make an impact. I wouldn't be surprised to see Beale fall out of the 23 when Cooper returns next month. With JOC (James O'Connor), Speight, Hunt in next year, I'm not sure Beale would make my team.

No bench play made an impact eg. Cowen, Higgers, Robinson. Some even made a negative impact Beale especially, Horne was poor, Alexander dropping costly ball.

It's one thing to make no impact and its another to make a negative contribution. Really disappointed in the bench.

 

[barbarian]

Yeah, Cowan was bloody invisible out there.

I thought Higgers was OK, and Horwill was solid enough. Benny Robbo had a few nice touches as well. But Alexander coughed it up at a crucial time, and Beale and Horne also made big errors that basically handed the Boks a try.
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[Tomikin]

Yeah, Cowan was bloody invisible out there.

I thought Higgers was OK, and Horwill was solid enough. Benny Robbo had a few nice touches as well. But Alexander coughed it up at a crucial time, and Beale and Horne also made big errors that basically handed the Boks a try.
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It wasn't a game for Beale.. It was a game we were in because of our defence and you take one of our best defenders off and put on one of our worst. To'omua hadn't done much in attack but he hit rucks made tackles and won contact.

 

[Tomikin]

Yeah, Cowan was bloody invisible out there.

I thought Higgers was OK, and Horwill was solid enough. Benny Robbo had a few nice touches as well. But Alexander coughed it up at a crucial time, and Beale and Horne also made big errors that basically handed the Boks a try.
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Lol yeah Cowan lost it for us lol

 

[maxdacat]

Owens was terrible with the turnovers. Missed a knock on that put the boks in front and screwed us out Phipps try. Robbed.

You mean the Kepu jersey tug "try"?

 

[maxdacat]

Jesus Burger was fucken hard..

Yep - pivotal moment him coming on....never knew he was quite so good with ball in hand.

 

[maxdacat]

Yep - pivotal moment him coming on..never knew he was quite so good with ball in hand.

or through the legs

 

[barbarian]

It wasn't a game for Beale.. It was a game we were in because of our defence and you take one of our best defenders off and put on one of our worst. To'omua hadn't done much in attack but he hit rucks made tackles and won contact.

Yeah I agree to a point, but we needed a bit of x factor in attack, too. We were battling to break down the Boks and so I can see why the sub was made.

To'omua was good in defence but hurting us on attack with bad kicks, missing touch on penalties, aimless grubbers etc.
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