Shute Shield 2013
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Simplistic to 'assign' all players to wherever they grew up. I don't endorse all of Sydney Uni's recruitment by any means, and would rather see a more equitable spread of talent, but this notion of 'Suburb of Origin' is naive. There are many factors in the equation.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Club of Origin/Suburb of Origin/School association of Origin is nonsense and only exists as a keyboard selection exercise.
Many kids have "bad" experiences with either their village club coach/management, or District Coach/Management when their are in the Juniors. These experiences are "badder" if they happen to be playing in the same position as the Coaches/Managers boy.
To progress, or to get the necessary experience and development, these boys often have to change club/district.
To suggest that a Club has some sort of mortgage over a player's services because of some geographic accident is fallacy.
Many kids (in the Schools A's pathway) are "lost" to their junior village club/district at Under 13, with all the "development" happening cutresy of the AAGPS/CAS/ISA school that they attend. They may pop up at State Champs having had about 2 or 3 trial games for their District, and anbout 6 or 8 training sessions. Very limited development and investment in the kid there.
Loyalty is a two way street and like respect, it is earned and can not be demanded in todays environment.
Shute Shield Clubs need to have a culture and package to attract and retain players, and it is not all about winning but that is important. Some clubs have an advantage due to location, facilities, coaching staff, "old boy" connections etc. There are weaknesses at all clubs that others can exploit to their advantage.
Uni - Unless you are a Soup player - you will get little 1st grade time at the business end of the season. If first grade time on the paddock is desired then go to a club that can give you more of that.
MMM and Rats. Unless you live on the peninsular, travel to and from games/training is a bugger.
Wicks. Unless you are connected with Stallion Rugby or Scots, the future may be bleak. Training can be hard to get to unless you can afford to live in the East.
and so on.
Many kids have "bad" experiences with either their village club coach/management, or District Coach/Management when their are in the Juniors. These experiences are "badder" if they happen to be playing in the same position as the Coaches/Managers boy.
To progress, or to get the necessary experience and development, these boys often have to change club/district.
To suggest that a Club has some sort of mortgage over a player's services because of some geographic accident is fallacy.
Many kids (in the Schools A's pathway) are "lost" to their junior village club/district at Under 13, with all the "development" happening cutresy of the AAGPS/CAS/ISA school that they attend. They may pop up at State Champs having had about 2 or 3 trial games for their District, and anbout 6 or 8 training sessions. Very limited development and investment in the kid there.
Loyalty is a two way street and like respect, it is earned and can not be demanded in todays environment.
Shute Shield Clubs need to have a culture and package to attract and retain players, and it is not all about winning but that is important. Some clubs have an advantage due to location, facilities, coaching staff, "old boy" connections etc. There are weaknesses at all clubs that others can exploit to their advantage.
Uni - Unless you are a Soup player - you will get little 1st grade time at the business end of the season. If first grade time on the paddock is desired then go to a club that can give you more of that.
MMM and Rats. Unless you live on the peninsular, travel to and from games/training is a bugger.
Wicks. Unless you are connected with Stallion Rugby or Scots, the future may be bleak. Training can be hard to get to unless you can afford to live in the East.
and so on.
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
No - but I'm toying with going subject to these considerations:
Racing @ Rosehill
NRL Double header @ SFS
Swans @ Allianz
Probably depends where you live as to the extent these events affect you.
Despite traffic warnings on TV news about these events none carried any indication that, in addition to these events, the SS GF was on today almost in the very middle of them.
A bit sad when I think back to the old sportsground on grand final day.
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
ANZ
Zander
Ron Walden (29)
Michael McDougall and Cam Mitchell were the Kings 1st XV centre pairing in 2008 weren't they? Also went onto to be the GPS 1sts, NSW I and Aus Schoolboys pairing. Nice journey for them to a Shute Shield grand final appearance.
Wonder if Tepai Morea and Tanne Milne do something similar?
Wonder if Tepai Morea and Tanne Milne do something similar?
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
It is.
Gates dont open until 6pm so depending on where you live only rosehill and moore park shold be problems
FilthRugby
Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Uni won 4ths
Woodies won turds by a point.
Two games to go.
Woodies won turds by a point.
Two games to go.
Eyes and Ears
Bob Davidson (42)
Uni leading 36-3 in 2nd Grade.
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Liam Winton has taken a big knock and Gigantor Willie Skelton has come on to replace him off the bench after 8 minutes.
Uni currently lead 10 to 0.
Uni currently lead 10 to 0.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
2013 SYDNEY RUGBY UNION AWARDS
Friday September 13, 2013Sydney Boulevard Hotel
KEN CATCHPOLE MEDAL
Shute Shield Player of the Year
18 Hugh Perrett (Eastwood)
16 Tim Davidson (Sydney University)
14 Josh Holmes (Warringah)
14 Bill Meakes (Northern Suburbs)
13 Kotoni Ale (Manly)
13 Dave Harvey (Warringah)
13 Lopeti Timani (Southern Districts)
12 Ben Batger (Eastwood)
12 Greg Jeloudev (Sydney University)
12 Tom Kingston (Sydney University)
12 Rohan Saifoloi (Southern Districts)
12 Andrew Shaw (Eastern Suburbs)
Shute Shield Rookie of the Year
Hugh Roach (Eastwood)
ROSCOE FAY TROPHY
Shute Shield Highest Points Scorer
Rohan Saifoloi (Southern Districts)
DAVID BROCKHOFF MEDAL
Shute Shield Coach of the Year
John Manenti (Eastwood)
DICK BYRES MEDAL
Shute Shield Referee of the Year
James Leckie
GREGOR GEORGE TROPHY
Shute Shield Club Champions
Sydney University
ERIC SPILSTED TROPHY
Colts’ Club Champions
Sydney University
ES MARKS SHIELD
Shute Shield Minor Premiers
Eastwood
WILL TANNER AWARD
NSW Country Player of the Year
Paul Taula (Illawarra)
SIR RODEN CUTLER SHIELD
Club Challenge
Sydney University
Ken Catchpole Medal Honour Roll
1981 Neale Murphy (Western Suburbs)
1982 Geoff Richards (Eastern Suburbs)
1983 Peter Lucas (St George)
1984 Richard Moriarty (Western Suburbs)
1985 Phillip Cox (Manly)
1986 Peter Lucas (St George), David Niu (St George) and Sione Tahaafe (Eastwood)
1987 Steve Lidbury (Warringah)
1988 Jim Fewtrell (Warringah)
1989 Simon Poidevin (Randwick)
1990 Matt Foldi (Warringah)
1991 Marty Roebuck (Eastwood)
1992 Ross Reynolds (Gordon)
1993 Phil Kearns (Randwick)
1994 Mark Catchpole (Warringah)
1995 Nick Harvey (Northern Suburbs)
1996 Dirk Williams (Eastern Suburbs)
1997 Adam Leach (Eastwood)
1998 Mark Catchpole (Sydney University)
1999 Peter Besseling (Penrith) and Keith Gleeson (Northern Suburbs)
2000 Sam Harris (Warringah)
2001 Des Tuiavi’i (West Harbour)
2002 Scott Fava (Eastwood)
2003 Scott Fava (Eastwood)
2004 Scott Fava (Eastwood)
2005 Tim Donnelly (Eastwood)
2006 Peter Hewat (Manly)
2007 Gavin Debartolo (Eastern Suburbs)
2008 Scott Fardy (Warringah) and Dave Harvey (Gordon)
2009 Andrew Smith (Norths)
2010 Brendan McKibbin (Eastern Suburbs)
2011 Dave Harvey (Norths)
2012 Hamish Angus (Warringah)
2013 Hugh Perrett (Eastwood)
Source:http://www.nswrugby.com.au/NSWRugby/News/NewsArticle/tabid/374/ArticleID/10215/Default.aspx
Friday September 13, 2013Sydney Boulevard Hotel
KEN CATCHPOLE MEDAL
Shute Shield Player of the Year
18 Hugh Perrett (Eastwood)
16 Tim Davidson (Sydney University)
14 Josh Holmes (Warringah)
14 Bill Meakes (Northern Suburbs)
13 Kotoni Ale (Manly)
13 Dave Harvey (Warringah)
13 Lopeti Timani (Southern Districts)
12 Ben Batger (Eastwood)
12 Greg Jeloudev (Sydney University)
12 Tom Kingston (Sydney University)
12 Rohan Saifoloi (Southern Districts)
12 Andrew Shaw (Eastern Suburbs)
Shute Shield Rookie of the Year
Hugh Roach (Eastwood)
ROSCOE FAY TROPHY
Shute Shield Highest Points Scorer
Rohan Saifoloi (Southern Districts)
DAVID BROCKHOFF MEDAL
Shute Shield Coach of the Year
John Manenti (Eastwood)
DICK BYRES MEDAL
Shute Shield Referee of the Year
James Leckie
GREGOR GEORGE TROPHY
Shute Shield Club Champions
Sydney University
ERIC SPILSTED TROPHY
Colts’ Club Champions
Sydney University
ES MARKS SHIELD
Shute Shield Minor Premiers
Eastwood
WILL TANNER AWARD
NSW Country Player of the Year
Paul Taula (Illawarra)
SIR RODEN CUTLER SHIELD
Club Challenge
Sydney University
Ken Catchpole Medal Honour Roll
1981 Neale Murphy (Western Suburbs)
1982 Geoff Richards (Eastern Suburbs)
1983 Peter Lucas (St George)
1984 Richard Moriarty (Western Suburbs)
1985 Phillip Cox (Manly)
1986 Peter Lucas (St George), David Niu (St George) and Sione Tahaafe (Eastwood)
1987 Steve Lidbury (Warringah)
1988 Jim Fewtrell (Warringah)
1989 Simon Poidevin (Randwick)
1990 Matt Foldi (Warringah)
1991 Marty Roebuck (Eastwood)
1992 Ross Reynolds (Gordon)
1993 Phil Kearns (Randwick)
1994 Mark Catchpole (Warringah)
1995 Nick Harvey (Northern Suburbs)
1996 Dirk Williams (Eastern Suburbs)
1997 Adam Leach (Eastwood)
1998 Mark Catchpole (Sydney University)
1999 Peter Besseling (Penrith) and Keith Gleeson (Northern Suburbs)
2000 Sam Harris (Warringah)
2001 Des Tuiavi’i (West Harbour)
2002 Scott Fava (Eastwood)
2003 Scott Fava (Eastwood)
2004 Scott Fava (Eastwood)
2005 Tim Donnelly (Eastwood)
2006 Peter Hewat (Manly)
2007 Gavin Debartolo (Eastern Suburbs)
2008 Scott Fardy (Warringah) and Dave Harvey (Gordon)
2009 Andrew Smith (Norths)
2010 Brendan McKibbin (Eastern Suburbs)
2011 Dave Harvey (Norths)
2012 Hamish Angus (Warringah)
2013 Hugh Perrett (Eastwood)
Source:http://www.nswrugby.com.au/NSWRugby/News/NewsArticle/tabid/374/ArticleID/10215/Default.aspx
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Nasty wind from the South (Parramatta Road end) at Concord. Favours Uni in the first half.
Good size crowd in the main stand. Not many in the East Stand looking into the sun.
Scrappy game so far. Mostly been all Uni possession and possession.
17 min gone. Bartger lines up a PK for offside and pushes it across the face for nil points.
20 minutes gone and Batger gets another chance (only 15 minutes out) and breaks the drought.
Uni 10 - Woodies 3.
Good size crowd in the main stand. Not many in the East Stand looking into the sun.
Scrappy game so far. Mostly been all Uni possession and possession.
17 min gone. Bartger lines up a PK for offside and pushes it across the face for nil points.
20 minutes gone and Batger gets another chance (only 15 minutes out) and breaks the drought.
Uni 10 - Woodies 3.
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