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Peter Fenwicke (45)
Oh, if the comments by kiwis on the All Blacks facebook page is anything to go by, Higgers is certainly at the forefront of their minds, and Quade not so.
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Geoff Shaw (53)
Anything you openly put into the public sphere of knowledge is 'media' by technical definition. But from your definition (which is probably a more common one) of media as the press his Cooper remarks were reported anyway so it's much the same.
Obviously he's already commented on Higgers and the French GF directly to the media. There's also been brief snaps about Cooper in the past to directly to the traditional media.
There's no doubt in my mind he's happy to heap shit on blokes he doesn't care for through the media, he's obviously too intelligent to be lead to say things he doesn't mean like some are silly enough to do.
Good bloke but like I said, this stuff's better discussed confidentially to tribunals or behind closed doors to mates/colleagues.
True. Spotted it only after I posted. Still quite amazed that someone could have thoguht it was accidental.
Me? Look for a fight? Never.
I saw it live at a pub with Kiwi mates and only saw the replay on Youtube after the post. Enough said?
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
That just proves their preciousness. We don't act the same way to Burger.
Brisbok
Cyril Towers (30)
No, you just bring it up at every opportunity even when the guy pretty much hasn't played for 12 months.
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John Solomon (38)
Well Richie told everyone he lost his game after Quade kneed him, what did he expect?
Antony
Alex Ross (28)
Over-reaction isn't the exclusive domain of any one country mate.
qwerty51
Stirling Mortlock (74)
I'm just trying to prove a point, I don't hold anything against Burger, I firmly believe what happens on the field is between the players and stays on the field. If I met him on the street I'd ask for an autograph.
Brisbok
Cyril Towers (30)
Fair enough. I'm sure you could say the same about most Kiwi's and Higgers. Making a judgement on how 'precious' they are the day after a game where there was an incident probably isn't the most accurate gauge. I'm sure most will be forgotten by the next time Higgers plays the AB's, but no doubt there will still be a few idiots who might boo him.
SANZAR judiciary appears to be a lottery he could get anything.
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Dave Cowper (27)
I'm not condoning what Higginbotham did, but you can't say he was trying to hurt McCaw. This wasn't like Mealamu on O'Driscoll or anything.
It was dumb as dog shit, but the intent was to annoy him not hurt him. As for the suspension lottery I pick 7 weeks.
Richie's now known for two things
1) Being one of, if not the most important players in the world
2) Being rattle-able through niggle
If you know you can just dislodge 5% of the "best player in world ever bro"'s attention, you're mad not to do it. Reds have been doing it for the last couple of years. Beau Robinson did a corking job at the Super final last year - probably the best role he played. Watching it live and not at the mercy of the ball following cameras, you saw so much more.
That Quade and now Higgers - both Reds - have followed through on it isn't surprising. Higgers needs to do it better though - a weak headbutt is just dumb.
Interestingly when Sharpie took that "cheap shot" from Etzebeth, I don't remember many of us around here carrying on like pork chops over it. In fact, a few gave the big man crap over it.
1) Being one of, if not the most important players in the world
2) Being rattle-able through niggle
If you know you can just dislodge 5% of the "best player in world ever bro"'s attention, you're mad not to do it. Reds have been doing it for the last couple of years. Beau Robinson did a corking job at the Super final last year - probably the best role he played. Watching it live and not at the mercy of the ball following cameras, you saw so much more.
That Quade and now Higgers - both Reds - have followed through on it isn't surprising. Higgers needs to do it better though - a weak headbutt is just dumb.
Interestingly when Sharpie took that "cheap shot" from Etzebeth, I don't remember many of us around here carrying on like pork chops over it. In fact, a few gave the big man crap over it.
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Tim Horan (67)
What Gagger??? You don't remember the comments over Etzebeth incident?? I would get to a doctor man,you obviously been concussed and losing your memory!!!
But seriously, I agree, if you think you can upset a top player like Richie ,you do it, just if it worth risking playing the game with only 14 men is the question. I think most people in here are having a go at Higgers (well I am) for being so stupid as to do it like this as it shows he a; doesn't have a lot of savvy on how you upset top player, and b;when reverting to dirty tactics he not hard enough to carry them out. If you want to hassle players Sharpie is the man to watch, he just walks into someone as he goes into lineout (whitelock was a classic case on saturday) and then a little push and shove from both players, thats how you do it, noone gets penalised ,but make sure your opposition knows you are there.
But seriously, I agree, if you think you can upset a top player like Richie ,you do it, just if it worth risking playing the game with only 14 men is the question. I think most people in here are having a go at Higgers (well I am) for being so stupid as to do it like this as it shows he a; doesn't have a lot of savvy on how you upset top player, and b;when reverting to dirty tactics he not hard enough to carry them out. If you want to hassle players Sharpie is the man to watch, he just walks into someone as he goes into lineout (whitelock was a classic case on saturday) and then a little push and shove from both players, thats how you do it, noone gets penalised ,but make sure your opposition knows you are there.
Scotty
David Codey (61)
I agree this was stupid, but I also wonder how Joubert could justify not giving McCaw a yellow in the first half. He was penalised or could have been penalised every five minutes. He was offside by at least 1m at two consecutive rucks when we pressured their line and entered so many rucks from the side it wasn't funny. Some was so blatant I could believe what I was seeing!
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Trevor Allan (34)
How would the discussion be going if Higgers had been spotted by the touchie and given a red card? A stupid act.
He may have had a spotless past but after today he will almost certainly have a record, which could hurt him in the future.
I used to encourage my boys to get stuck into the opposition when we had crunch games against tough teams. Don't back down, ruck them off the ball etc. But I stopped that after the thicker players thought they could commit acts of foul play and give away stupid penalties. There was always someone who would run up and stomp or throw a punch right in front of the ref. There is a difference between playing hard and not backing down, and just being a cheap shot boofhead. Some players just need it explained, preferably in small words and maybe a diagram or two.
It will be interesting how it goes today. I think 3 weeks minimum.
I thought it was a nail biter of a game and loved it. The tension to the last second was awesome. Now I look forward to the anzacs dominating the northern hemisphere.
Both teams will be the better for a tough battle.
He may have had a spotless past but after today he will almost certainly have a record, which could hurt him in the future.
I used to encourage my boys to get stuck into the opposition when we had crunch games against tough teams. Don't back down, ruck them off the ball etc. But I stopped that after the thicker players thought they could commit acts of foul play and give away stupid penalties. There was always someone who would run up and stomp or throw a punch right in front of the ref. There is a difference between playing hard and not backing down, and just being a cheap shot boofhead. Some players just need it explained, preferably in small words and maybe a diagram or two.
It will be interesting how it goes today. I think 3 weeks minimum.
I thought it was a nail biter of a game and loved it. The tension to the last second was awesome. Now I look forward to the anzacs dominating the northern hemisphere.
Both teams will be the better for a tough battle.
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