Scotland v Wallabies at Murrayfield 12.40am Mon 25 Nov

[Wilson]

One of the (many) things that bothers me about our game is that there isn't any clear communication around the judiciary process for fans. The individual competitions are slightly better (but still miles behind other sports), but for test matches it's ridiculous. There should be very clear comms around this each week with a press release going out detailing the judiciary schedule and public communication of results as they come in. As it stands it's completely ad hoc and not even the dedicated rugby journalists seem to have much idea about what's happening when, let alone the public.

 

[todd4]

6-2 seems a little risky TBH.

Usually the time when you cop early inuries to your backs and then you're done for replacements for the rest of the game.

 

[Strewthcobber]

One of the (many) things that bothers me about our game is that there isn't any clear communication around the judiciary process for fans. The individual competitions are slightly better (but still miles behind other sports), but for test matches it's ridiculous. There should be very clear comms around this each week with a press release going out detailing the judiciary schedule and public communication of results as they come in. As it stands it's completely ad hoc and not even the dedicated rugby journalists seem to have much idea about what's happening when, let alone the public.

These tests are all being run by the Six Nations comp - I agree the comms isn't great but they do have a semi-decent website setup https://www.sixnationsrugby.com/en/discipline

Edit - it seems like there was a press release too

Kerevi received a red card for a dangerous tackle during the Wallabies’ 52-20 thumping over Wales.
The Wallaby, who was celebrating his landmark 50th cap in the centre, was shown a yellow card for a tackle on Jac Morgan that ended with his shoulder and forehead crashing into the Welsh flank’s cheek.
Later ruled highly dangerous by the TMO, the decision to upgrade to the 20-minute red card offence.
Kerevi is set to contravene Law 9.13 (A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously).
The 31-year-old, who is based in Japan, is not expected to be available for the final match of the tour against Ireland in Dublin anyway, so his tour could be over unless Australian officials successfully fight his corner.
The player will attend the hearing via video conference before an independent Disciplinary Committee chaired by Brenda Heather-Latu (Samoa).

The hearing will take place on Tuesday, November 19.

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[Braveheart81]

These tests are all being run by the Six Nations comp - I agree the comms isn't great but they do have a semi-decent website setup https://www.sixnationsrugby.com/en/discipline

Edit - it seems like there was a press release too

This seems unusual. I could have sworn that previously these tests had their judicial outcomes on the World Rugby site.

One of the (many) things that bothers me about our game is that there isn't any clear communication around the judiciary process for fans. The individual competitions are slightly better (but still miles behind other sports), but for test matches it's ridiculous.

Is it just because none of us are on the right email distribution list?

SANZAAR is pretty clear because so many of us have ended up on their "media" mailing list over the years. I've certainly seen fans complaining about having no idea what's happening when they're not privy to those emails.

I agree completely with the premise though. Publish this stuff clearly whether it is on a website or just a social media post or both.

 

[Strewthcobber]

This seems unusual. I could have sworn that previously these tests had their judicial outcomes on the World Rugby site

It depends who is running the comp (and this is where there is no consistency).

July internationals are on the WR (World Rugby) website - https://www.world.rugby/news/946189...ary-committee-update-filipo-daugunu-australia

SANZAAR run TRC

November internationals - called the Autumn Nations Series - are being run by 6 nations, so appear on theirs.

 

[stillmissit]

I note it is pretty cold and snowing in Scotland atm hope it warms up a bit before the game.

 

[chasmac]

I really like the one where three Welsh players finally clear him out of our rolling maul and they all end up on the ground while our maul accelerates forward now with a numerical advantage.

A great visual display of what his physicality brings.

And he manages to land on top of 2.5 of them

 

[rugbyAU]

Is it possible for us to play Skelton and Wilson in the same starting side?

 

[Braveheart81]

It depends who is running the comp (and this is where there is no consistency).

July internationals are on the WR (World Rugby) (World Rugby) website - https://www.world.rugby/news/946189...ary-committee-update-filipo-daugunu-australia

SANZAAR run TRC

November internationals - called the Autumn Nations Series - are being run by 6 nations, so appear on theirs.

Looking back on the World Rugby site, they do November internationals that don't involve Six Nations teams (so another level of complexity to the issue!).

 

[wamberal99]

Is it possible for us to play Skelton and Wilson in the same starting side?

Why not?

 

[rugbyAU]

Why not?

Just thinking about the line out options

 

[wamberal99]

Just thinking about the line out options

Wilson can jump?

 

[Slim 293]

Wilson can jump?

Yes, but clearly not to the same level as say Frost, Williams, LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto), Uru etc., hence the make up of selections last weekend, and presumably the same accommodations for Skelton would have to be taken into consideration against Scotland depending on whether he starts or not.

If Skelton does start again, which is quite likely, then there's a high probability that Wilson may miss out for either Williams or Uru.

Or maybe not... but clearly having Frost and Uru, and then Frost and LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) as our primary jumpers and to put pressure on the Welsh throw worked very well last week.

 

[drewprint]

It’s a good problem to have. We haven’t had competitiveness for positions in awhile. As much as I love Wilson and been impressed by him as captain, I’d contend we’re a stronger team with Skelton starting and a really strong lineout jumper like Williams or Uru at #6. Then maybe 50 mins into the game bring on LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) for Skelton and Wilson on for Williams/Uru.

 

[Spamnoodle]

The make up last weekend was because Wilson had to sit out due to concussion protocols.

 

[drewprint]

The make up last weekend was because Wilson had to sit out due to concussion protocols.

Good point. They may have Skelton and Wilson together yet and make it work. Lineout has been humming so far. But I reckon it’s pretty risky (as good as Wilson and Valetini have been).

 

[dru]

The make up last weekend was because Wilson had to sit out due to concussion protocols.

Yes, that connected well with selection plans including Skelton. Choices this week are different, arguably more complete. We'll see how Schmidt solves it in due course.

 

[stillmissit]

Yes, but clearly not to the same level as say Frost, Williams, LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto), Uru etc., hence the make up of selections last weekend, and presumably the same accommodations for Skelton would have to be taken into consideration against Scotland depending on whether he starts or not.

If Skelton does start again, which is quite likely, then there's a high probability that Wilson may miss out for either Williams or Uru.

Or maybe not... but clearly having Frost and Uru, and then Frost and LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) as our primary jumpers and to put pressure on the Welsh throw worked very well last week.

Wilson is a strong target for the lineout and has been for some time. Skelton's lifting needs to be considered as part of the success last week and will have an impact this week. Uru coming on for Wilson will not weaken the lineout and I suspect Schmidt will start with Willaims assuming he is fit. So we seem to have the lineout covered. It is our D that needs focus and work. The battle at the breakdown will be compulsory watching as the Scots are pretty good at the BD.

 

[Slim 293]

The make up last weekend was because Wilson had to sit out due to concussion protocols.

Yes and no…

The selections were still made to accommodate two primary lineout jumpers.

 

[Tomthumb]

Yes, but clearly not to the same level as say Frost, Williams, LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto), Uru etc., hence the make up of selections last weekend, and presumably the same accommodations for Skelton would have to be taken into consideration against Scotland depending on whether he starts or not.

If Skelton does start again, which is quite likely, then there's a high probability that Wilson may miss out for either Williams or Uru.

Or maybe not... but clearly having Frost and Uru, and then Frost and LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) as our primary jumpers and to put pressure on the Welsh throw worked very well last week.

Wales losing their best lineout forward early on and becoming a rabble worked well for Australia too

Harry Wilson is plenty good enough to be a secondary lineout option, and he offers much more in every other facet of the game then Uru. I'm not a big fan of having to re-jig the entire forward pack to accommodate one guy. The forward pack was pretty good without him vs England