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Scotland v Wallabies at Murrayfield 12.40am Mon 25 Nov

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
Bring on Wilson and give Valetini a break around 50 assuming the game is going OK of course. Pulling Valetini early if we are struggling makes no sense, he has a big engine and will be up for next week's game.

I was assuming Wilson and Valetini would both start with Wilson resuming the captaincy.

Any news on Kerevi's RC? When's the tribunal?

Tuesday evening apparently.

I don't see how Kerevi can start this week with the suspension looming over him and a very limited preparation. Surely you're not running Tuesday's session with him as the 12.

They'd have what, 3 sessions this week then captain's run on Saturday?
 

stillmissit

Peter Johnson (47)
I was assuming Wilson and Valetini would both start with Wilson resuming the captaincy.
I'm replying to those who state Skelton will be on the bench, I disagree as do you. The idea offered by some posters was that we would have to put V to 8, Uru 6 (or some mix) to make the lineout work but I think with Williams starting the lineout will be fine. We could start Wilson, BobbV and McRight but I would want V to be replaced at 50 due to next week's big game - mind you both the remaining games are big.
 

Dctarget

Tim Horan (67)
Anyone questioning Will Skelton's inclusion needs to remember Wales tour of Aus. Without Skelton, the Welsh maul was dominant, they crossed the line four times thanks to their maul, even doing it with 1 forward in the bin, 7 welsh v 8 aussies.
 

Spamnoodle

Larry Dwyer (12)
Fuuuuuck off fluffybunnys. Why is this on Monday morning as well?
It was interesting hearing Wright's interview after the game saying he was really enjoying playing afternoon games up north. If it helps keep that winning feeling I can hack the time pain.
 

TSR

Andrew Slack (58)
Anyone questioning Will Skelton's inclusion needs to remember Wales tour of Aus. Without Skelton, the Welsh maul was dominant, they crossed the line four times thanks to their maul, even doing it with 1 forward in the bin, 7 welsh v 8 aussies.
This is a real point of strength for Skelton - but our defensive maul had already significantly improved as evidenced by their performance v England.
 

TSR

Andrew Slack (58)
Gleeson on the bench makes sense to provide a like for like replacement for Valetini - but I wonder if Schmidt will be tempted to bring on Uru and try to really speed the game up in the last 20 with Uru and McDermott injecting pace alongside Wilson & McReight.
 

Dctarget

Tim Horan (67)
This is a real point of strength for Skelton - but our defensive maul had already significantly improved as evidenced by their performance v England.

have a read of Bishop's analysis, the gifs alone are great fun. The one where Skelton literally splits their defence in two is brilliant.
 

LeCheese

Greg Davis (50)

How leviathan Will Skelton and the Wallabies reversed the World Cup fiasco​

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Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
have a read of Bishop's analysis, the gifs alone are great fun. The one where Skelton literally splits their defence in two is brilliant.

I really like the one where three Welsh players finally clear him out of our rolling maul and they all end up on the ground while our maul accelerates forward now with a numerical advantage.

A great visual display of what his physicality brings.
 

TSR

Andrew Slack (58)

have a read of Bishop's analysis, the gifs alone are great fun. The one where Skelton literally splits their defence in two is brilliant.
I did have a chuckle during the game when Skelton fell down on the guy holding the ball in a maul and didn’t appear to be sure if the ref had called him onside or not and you could see him trying to work out if he needed to roll off the ball or not.

There was another case where Skelton cleaned a guy out in the side and again landed on top of him. Then he just lay there and held him out of play while the Welsh guy was trying to get Skelton off him. It was like watching an older sibling beat up on the youngest - the Welsh guy was doing his best but Skelton had him completely under control.
 

dru

David Wilson (68)
I'm replying to those who state Skelton will be on the bench, I disagree as do you. The idea offered by some posters was that we would have to put V to 8, Uru 6 (or some mix) to make the lineout work but I think with Williams starting the lineout will be fine. We could start Wilson, BobbV and McRight but I would want V to be replaced at 50 due to next week's big game - mind you both the remaining games are big.

I can see a "standard" backrow of Valetini, McReight, Wilson starting with Skelton. But I'm going to seriously be watching the line-out. As I said earlier, I'd also consider Skelton at #4 sitting behind Bell - if Tupou is starting and told to fucking hold up your side.
 

Tomikin

David Codey (61)
Assuming everyone else agrees but Tom wrights improvement is absolutely sensational. Maybe he just is backing himself more and has more conviction to make a decision but he is genuinely outstanding.
I don’t know if there is anyone you want to get the ball more than him right now. Not just for the wallabies….he is a deadly attacker and his kicking and passing have improved immensely too.
His been playing like that for the last two years specially this year, he was a hiding to nothing under Eddie like a lot of people.. SA in South Africa with Eddie as coach. But if you been paying attention he was doing it all year.. hence why it was ridiculous people calling for Kellaway.
 

noscrumnolife

Bill Watson (15)
I did have a chuckle during the game when Skelton fell down on the guy holding the ball in a maul and didn’t appear to be sure if the ref had called him onside or not and you could see him trying to work out if he needed to roll off the ball or not.

There was another case where Skelton cleaned a guy out in the side and again landed on top of him. Then he just lay there and held him out of play while the Welsh guy was trying to get Skelton off him. It was like watching an older sibling beat up on the youngest - the Welsh guy was doing his best but Skelton had him completely under control.
Obviously he's a different frame...but I think Frost could learn a lot from Skelton (and also from Adam Beard, incidentally). Being massive is an advantage in Rugby (obvious understatement) - but you have to know how to use it. Skelton has really mastered the craft of using his weight in the right way and being that utterly immovable object.

Frost is a talented athlete - but he needs to learn to throw his body around. If he does there is a lot of upside - and at only 25 has development still in him.
 

Tomikin

David Codey (61)
Obviously he's a different frame...but I think Frost could learn a lot from Skelton (and also from Adam Beard, incidentally). Being massive is an advantage in Rugby (obvious understatement) - but you have to know how to use it. Skelton has really mastered the craft of using his weight in the right way and being that utterly immovable object.

Frost is a talented athlete - but he needs to learn to throw his body around. If he does there is a lot of upside - and at only 25 has development still in him.
I agree, I think Frost is an awesome player, but that was the reason he was behind Neville and Swain this year at the Brumbies, hopefully he gets a bit of old man strength starting to come through him next few years. By 2027 he should be one of the best locks in the world.
 
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