School sporting scholarships/recruitment

[lily]

I find this recent Scots 1st 5 situation as rather comical. One of the accusers is Hawkes from Kings. He even acknowledges that his school has done the same. The reason for my post is this. I am an external coach at Riverview. I am paid according to my experience and qualifications.
The amount of hired guns by these schools does not just mean players. When level 2 coaches are assigned the lower age B teams then surely they must also be a part of the so called arms race.
Glass houses?

 

[Stan Pilecki's Left Nut]

Good point Lily...I mean will we one day see the definition of Hypocrite in the dictionary being the words...."Tim Hawkes...TKS"
If you read the comments to his SMH articles you even have TKS old boys calling him a Hypocrite. His credibility is Zip, Zilch, Zero. On top of that he seems to have a permanent case of LAM "look at moi" syndrome.
Definitely looks like LAM Tim Hawkes is the ring leader of the Gang of 5

 

[I like to watch]

Disagree Lily, I think it is excellent that they are sourcing well qualified coaches for kids that are not judged as elite.
That's what I always considered the value add that GPS Schools provided.
Making kids better with excellent facilities and resources.
I think it should be applauded.

 

[It is what it is]

Disagree Lily, I think it is excellent that they are sourcing well qualified coaches for kids that are not judged as elite.
That's what I always considered the value add that GPS Schools provided.
Making kids better with excellent facilities and resources.
I think it should be applauded.

Except when it goes over the top.
Scots rugby change rooms have individual lockers and booths to the same standard as Souths rugby league do at ANZ stadium. They also had over $20K worth of GPS equipment they weren't even using at one stage.
Don't you think that's a little too extravagant?

 

[Stan Pilecki's Left Nut]

CCCCCCyril I think that shows they mean business. You know...going for excellence. Shame other GPS schools haven't kept up with the rest of the world. You know some times I think the type of thinking exhibited by the Gang of Divers is why Rugby in this country is going downhill on all fronts. They are backwards, head in sand stuff, not forward thinking, anti-competitive, dare I say it almost socialist in their proposals. Rugby sucks in this country. This is where it all starts from. Get with it

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Except when it goes over the top.
Scots rugby change rooms have individual lockers and booths to the same standard as Souths rugby league do at ANZ stadium. They also had over $20K worth of GPS equipment they weren't even using at one stage.
Don't you think that's a little too extravagant?

Probably. In clubland, to win a State title, you only need an old tarpaulin and borrowed jumpers. None of this fancy changing room stuff.

Edit: Passion and mateship seems to help as well.

Yes it is true that the victorious Manly U17 team was formed by a number of the players who had been competing at the State Championships since the U10s. The coach was in fact an U17 player who was injured and out for the season. The boys trained and prepared themselves and borrowed jerseys from the colts team of which several of them now play. No fancy marquees for this team, instead they used an old paint stained tarp to put their gear on. They were a real credit to themselves and showed a lot of guts to take out the championship.

 

[sarcophilus]

I find this recent Scots 1st 5 situation as rather comical. One of the accusers is Hawkes from Kings. He even acknowledges that his school has done the same. The reason for my post is this. I am an external coach at Riverview. I am paid according to my experience and qualifications.
The amount of hired guns by these schools does not just mean players. When level 2 coaches are assigned the lower age B teams then surely they must also be a part of the so called arms race.
Glass houses?

Surely the investment in one coach(or coaching team) that serves 22 students and improves their overall performance and enjoyment in the game is a vastly better investment than 6 -10 subsidised school fees the recipients of which will further dilute the resources available to those throwing into the pot.

 

[It is what it is]

CCCCCCyril I think that shows they mean business. You know.going for excellence. Shame other GPS schools haven't kept up with the rest of the world. You know some times I think the type of thinking exhibited by the Gang of Divers is why Rugby in this country is going downhill on all fronts. They are backwards, head in sand stuff, not forward thinking, anti-competitive, dare I say it almost socialist in their proposals. Rugby sucks in this country. This is where it all starts from. Get with it

Are the strings on your banjo broken Stan?

 

[Stan Pilecki's Left Nut]

No Cyril but I'm starting to itch.

You know Cyril...stay up for a few hours and watch how the Australian Rugby team perfectly reflect the type of thinking expressed about Rugby on this site.
It's a culture of mediocracy. They try hard, but the whole culture and thinking is backward. I don't like it because I'm Australian and proud. However I can't be proud of what I see with Rugby in Australia.
You are part of the problem Cyril.

 

[cyclopath]

No Cyril but I'm starting to itch.

You know Cyril.stay up for a few hours and watch how the Australian Rugby team perfectly reflect the type of thinking expressed about Rugby on this site.
It's a culture of mediocracy. They try hard, but the whole culture and thinking is backward. I don't like it because I'm Australian and proud. However I can't be proud of what I see with Rugby in Australia.
You are part of the problem Cyril.

You do realise he aint Cyril?
And if it's so mediocre, I struggle to see why you bother to come on just to troll people.
Surely your immense talents would be better used elsewhere?
Sportal springs to mind.

 

[Stan Pilecki's Left Nut]

My dear dear Psychlopath I like to call him Cyril.
I come from the North to educate you.

 

[Quick Hands]

Have a look at the dispute with the local neighbours about the DA to extend the business studies centre.
''We believe the criticism now being directed at the college is deeply unfair and unreasonable, given that the school has, in effect, bent over backwards to listen and respond,'' Dr Lambert said.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/educ...ighbourhood-20130914-2trj3.html#ixzz2gAvwoJHU

So the School bent over backwards by listening,how did the School respond ?
They are appealing the Council decision in the Land and Environment Court!
Rules apparently are for other,less important folk.

I don't think the good doctor is accustomed to the word 'no'.

 

[cyclopath]

Feel free to retract anytime, Testicle of the north.

 

[Wood Rat]

anti-competitive, dare I say it almost socialist in their proposals. Rugby sucks in this country. This is where it all starts from. Get with it

A left nut worried about socialists?

 

[Stan Pilecki's Left Nut]

Haha .... love it
What will the score be tonight in the Bok v Marshmallows game?

 

[It is what it is]

Haha .. love it
What will the score be tonight in the Bok v Marshmallows game?

Just so you understand, it could be firty to nuffin.

 

[Stan Pilecki's Left Nut]

Haha Cyril...you sound muffed.

 

[wreckless]

I find this recent Scots 1st 5 situation as rather comical. One of the accusers is Hawkes from Kings. He even acknowledges that his school has done the same. The reason for my post is this. I am an external coach at Riverview. I am paid according to my experience and qualifications.
The amount of hired guns by these schools does not just mean players. When level 2 coaches are assigned the lower age B teams then surely they must also be a part of the so called arms race.
Glass houses?

Your honesty is refreshing and revealing! Great input on this issue!

 

[whatever]

No Cyril but I'm starting to itch.

You know Cyril.stay up for a few hours and watch how the Australian Rugby team perfectly reflect the type of thinking expressed about Rugby on this site.
It's a culture of mediocracy. They try hard, but the whole culture and thinking is backward. I don't like it because I'm Australian and proud. However I can't be proud of what I see with Rugby in Australia.
You are part of the problem Cyril.

Nutter,

What you are seeing now in Oz rugby is due to the private schools arms race and the adject failure of the selective sport state schools (both, decreasing the size of the pryamid; as a whole) to produce young high level sportpersons (look at our standing in cricket, as well as rugby; since these were put in place some 10-15 years ago). We are only now seeing the effect of these systems and actions.


Also the bloody blindfolds the ARU and the state unions are wearing concern the development of the junior game is now starting to show.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

whatever this so true.
Stan Pilecki's Left Nut in suggesting that warehousing u18 rugby talent in what you consider an innovative hothouse is likely to help oz rugby you overlook the lack of correlation between u18 talent and wallaby potential.
It is very difficult to pick which 14, 15 etc player will be up to wallaby or even s15. All these schools are interested in is getting the best u 18s they can.
I reckon the Wobblies performances actually reflect the drop in participation outside the private schools which is contributed To by poaching.