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Nathan Sharpe (72)
so when it gets torrid and desperate its no holds barred? Rubbish.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby-world-cup-2011/news/article.cfm?c_id=522&objectid=10761711
Rougeries's eye gouge
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so when it gets torrid and desperate its no holds barred? Rubbish.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby-world-cup-2011/news/article.cfm?c_id=522&objectid=10761711
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David Wilson (68)
Only trouble is Sud, he already resigned with NZ for 4 years anyway. Not quite sure why he wouldn't ne welcome because he let himself be eye gouged but.....
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Ward Prentice (10)
so when it gets torrid and desperate its no holds barred? Rubbish.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby-world-cup-2011/news/article.cfm?c_id=522&objectid=10761711
No. Not at all because it was torrid and very desperate toward the end,but rather the fact that McCaw has let it go.
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Bill McLean (32)
Whether McCaw has decided to "let it go" (read "get him back next time") is irrelevant.
My boys watch this game. Young kids model themselves on actions. Say what you like to them, spout all the high minded ideals you can wrap your lips around, but know this - its what they see getting DONE that is the big influencer here. They see that, they see nothing happened to the grub who did it and you can bleat til you're blind in the Juniors and Schools about Sportsmanship and Fair Play and you may as well go fart in a field for all the difference it makes.
This incident, the Burger incident - both dirty, intentional, malicious, hot headed, ill-disciplined and dangerous. The consequences? Absolutely NOTHING. Yeah, great message. Brilliant administration of a high profile international game on the world stage. Hell of an example.
My boys watch this game. Young kids model themselves on actions. Say what you like to them, spout all the high minded ideals you can wrap your lips around, but know this - its what they see getting DONE that is the big influencer here. They see that, they see nothing happened to the grub who did it and you can bleat til you're blind in the Juniors and Schools about Sportsmanship and Fair Play and you may as well go fart in a field for all the difference it makes.
This incident, the Burger incident - both dirty, intentional, malicious, hot headed, ill-disciplined and dangerous. The consequences? Absolutely NOTHING. Yeah, great message. Brilliant administration of a high profile international game on the world stage. Hell of an example.
Antony
Alex Ross (28)
Colin Meads baby - though McCaw has got to be catching up on him. Next time he plays a game with a broken shoulder I'll call it a tie.
More on topic, Rougerie is a grub. He finally has a good game and then ruins it with this shit. Idiot.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
He will have to perform the reprehensible wishbone manouvre on the Australian half as well
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John Thornett (49)
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pete88
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I totally get that a player's fate shouuld be decided ASAP but it now has led to some horrific miscarriages of justice on the rugby field regarding disgusting acts of foul play. Umaga and Mealamu (always makes me laugh when we hear how clean he is from Kiwi commentators right as he throws the first punch or headbutts someone - tangent) spearing O'Driscoll with loads of intent, Rougerie and Burger getting away with serious eye gouges. I mean sure it would leave a bad taste in the mouth with many if something that happened in a RWC Semi got "missed" until after the final, but I'd prefer to have seen Umaga, Mealamu and Rougerie banned rather than escape on a technicality.
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Rocky Elsom (76)
From a closed thread, so I cant properly attribute the poster, but it was Budgie's post 1408 http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/forum/threads/9540-RWC-2011-Quarter-final-3-Springbokke-v.-Wallabies-CLOSED?p=302315&viewfull=1#post302315
Further Info on this thread entitled Quinnell Jr loses sight in his left eye after playing incident :
http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/forum/threads/6155-Quinnell-Jr-loses-sight-in-his-left-eye-after-playing-incident?p=182099&highlight=quinnell#post182099
Someone has already talked about consequences of eye gouging on impressionable kids coming up throuogh the ranks. This is a reminder (as if we don't need one) of the potential consequences of this disgraceful activity.
Bones repair, cuts heal, sprains and strains get fixed. Once your sight is gone, it generally doesn't come back. The prosecution rests.
If the IRB doesn't do anything, then it is up to the French RU, coaches and selectors to do the right thing and de-select him from the national team. There is also nothing stopping the clubs from similarly doing the right thing. All these measures are dependent on the "guilty bastard" receiving the benefit of natural justice and the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
Further Info on this thread entitled Quinnell Jr loses sight in his left eye after playing incident :
http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/forum/threads/6155-Quinnell-Jr-loses-sight-in-his-left-eye-after-playing-incident?p=182099&highlight=quinnell#post182099
Someone has already talked about consequences of eye gouging on impressionable kids coming up throuogh the ranks. This is a reminder (as if we don't need one) of the potential consequences of this disgraceful activity.
Bones repair, cuts heal, sprains and strains get fixed. Once your sight is gone, it generally doesn't come back. The prosecution rests.
If the IRB doesn't do anything, then it is up to the French RU, coaches and selectors to do the right thing and de-select him from the national team. There is also nothing stopping the clubs from similarly doing the right thing. All these measures are dependent on the "guilty bastard" receiving the benefit of natural justice and the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
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pete88
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Totally agree, but the French clubs have a history of throwing the toys out of the pram when the IRB bans their players for filthy foul play, so it's probably wishful thinking. Too much money on the line I guess.
And as far as the impressionable kids go, well I remember after Bakkies eye gouged and bit Brendan Cannon in 2002 I was eyegouged at the bottom of a ruck in schoolboy rugby a few weeks later. Not gonna lie the pain was fucken extreme, I totally panicked and freaked out, it was one of the scariest moments of my life. Rugby can't continue to let this shit slide.
And as far as the impressionable kids go, well I remember after Bakkies eye gouged and bit Brendan Cannon in 2002 I was eyegouged at the bottom of a ruck in schoolboy rugby a few weeks later. Not gonna lie the pain was fucken extreme, I totally panicked and freaked out, it was one of the scariest moments of my life. Rugby can't continue to let this shit slide.
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John Solomon (38)
To be honest, I didn't think there was any dangerous intent in the O'Driscoll tackle. If O'Driscoll had rolled with the tackle rather than putting his arm in a stupid place he wouldn't have been injured at all. I don't mind the interpretation of the law that says the tackler is responsible if they lift someone, but what O'Driscoll did was terrible technique, and caused his injury more than the tackle.
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Jay
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They should bring back rucking and it would get rid of much of this horrendous behaviour.
Players deliberately lying on the wrong side of the ruck deserve to cop it, particularly if the referee isn't doing anything to stop it. Given that rucking isn't tolerated anymore, it would seem that frustrated players are resorting to more subtle, and far more dangerous and dirty tactics such as eye gouging.
Players deliberately lying on the wrong side of the ruck deserve to cop it, particularly if the referee isn't doing anything to stop it. Given that rucking isn't tolerated anymore, it would seem that frustrated players are resorting to more subtle, and far more dangerous and dirty tactics such as eye gouging.
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Andrew Slack (58)
McCaw would be trampled to pieces if we got rucking back and Pocock would have bled like a slaughtered ox in the quarters.
We can only dream.
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Geoff Shaw (53)
Am I the only who would swear he's seen some rucking at this RWC. Tentative and sometimes half-hearted but definitely rucking.
I agree. There was definitely a bit, but always tentative and half-hearted as you say, because anymore and it gets cracked down on heavily.
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