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PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Round 1:
Blues v Hurricanes – Stuart Dickinson (Australia)
Force v Brumbies – Steve Walsh (Australia)
Cheetahs v Bulls – Jonathan Kaplan (South Africa)
Crusaders v Highlanders – Chris Pollock (New Zealand)
Reds v Waratahs – Craig Joubert (South Africa)
Lions v Stormers – Mark Lawrence (South Africa)
Sharks v Chiefs – Keith Brown (New Zealand)
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
According to Kaplan the ruck area is going to be the place where they'll be strict this year. He sure pick the greyest area this year. :nta:
Sport24
Rugby

Refs to punish offenders
Johannesburg - Test referee Jonathan Kaplan has warned that referees will come down hard on players who illegally contest the ball in the ruck this year.
Kaplan, who is the world’s most experienced referee, will take charge of two Six Nations games in February and will also have the whistle when the Vodacom Super 14 kicks off in South Africa in a repeat of the Absa Currie Cup final between the Vodacom Cheetahs and Vodacom Bulls.

The veteran ref told Supersport.com that he was looking forward to a big season but admitted that he would have “start the season hot” to ensure that fans and players alike have a good standard of refereeing for the vital opening game.

Kaplan believes referees will come down hard on players who play illegally at the breakdown but does admit he has concerns with some of the negative aspects of play that are employed by teams during matches.

“It concerns me to see the constant setting and resetting of scrums and the winding down of the clock through this,” Kaplan said, “ As match officials we don’t want to guess. We will need to take a stronger line on the amount of resets in a game.

“Then at the rucks, we will be focusing on the tackler to ensure he fulfils all of his obligations. If he doesn’t we are going to come down on him early. We will take a harder line on players who are illegally contesting the ball. The tackler knows he needs to let go and if he is not, he will be penalized,” Kaplan told Supersport.com

“If we sort out those two areas, there will be quicker ball and the game will flow better.”

While Kaplan doesn’t agree with former England skipper Lawrence Dallaglio’s assessment that the breakdown is the source of the problems in the game at the moment, he does point out that referees often get the blame for enforcing the laws, where it rather the laws that should be questioned.

“There are a set of laws that are applicable to rugby,” Kaplan explained, “In ten years time they might change to make it a quicker match, but for now the emphasis is on allowing a fair contest. That has always been in the charter and it is important for referees to allow a fair contest and to allow a game which forces the tackler to comply with his obligations at the breakdown.”

While there was some unhappiness from Cheetah fans over his handling of last year’s Currie Cup final, Kaplan points out that there were no complaints from either team, and he is looking forward to refereeing the humdinger.

“If you look at the final, it was one of the better Currie Cup finals in terms of the pace of the game and it was frenetic. I let it unfold in a dynamic manner and that suits a team that wants to play with the ball in hand.

“There were lots of decisions for both sides that were desperately close and they were all correct except for one forward pass.

“Looking ahead, every game is different in the nature. The rivalry between the Cheetahs and Bulls in the last 10 years has been quite special and the Bulls have had a slight edge. But that is a tribute to how well the Cheetahs have used their resources because it’s a commonly known fact that this is a golden generation for the Bulls. It’s a testament to how good this Cheetah side is.”

If the final is any indication, the Bulls will arrive in Bloemfontein to a packed Free State Stadium, and Kaplan will be delivered another pressure cooker of a match.
 
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Boomy

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PaarlBok said:
Round 1:
Blues v Hurricanes – Stuart Dickinson (Australia)
Force v Brumbies – Steve Walsh (Australia)
Cheetahs v Bulls – Jonathan Kaplan (South Africa)
Crusaders v Highlanders – Chris Pollock (New Zealand)
Reds v Waratahs – Craig Joubert (South Africa)
Lions v Stormers – Mark Lawrence (South Africa)
Sharks v Chiefs – Keith Brown (New Zealand)

Should be one of the games of the week, will be ruined by dickhead of the year.
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Nah it'd be pretty boring anyway with pride on the line. Dour affairs these local derbies.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Balie Swart, x WC winner as player and coach and newly appointed by Saru to help the SA refs understanding the age old scrumming skill just had his first workshop with the top SA refs and practical sessions with the Stormers players and coaches.

SARugby.com
Refs expect fewer scrum resets
South African referees expect to see fewer re-set scrums as a result of more accurate applications of the scrummaging laws this season said SA Referees manager Andre Watson on Friday.

All eleven members of the SA Referees National Panel attended a two-day workshop in Cape Town and participated in practical scrummaging sessions with the Vodacom Stormers forwards. Similar exercises with the other SA Vodacom Super 14 franchises are also being planned.

SA Referees coach Tappe Henning, SA Referees scrummaging coach Balie Swart, and a group of refereeing assessors also attended the workshop.

“We are confident that we will be much more accurate with the scrum calls which will contribute to far less stoppages in the game as a result of these sessions,” said Watson.

“The IRB has decided that we need to cut down on the amount of scrum resetting. So the referees will be hard on correct scrummaging. In fact, we will be applying a zero tolerance for scrum transgressions.

“We had a practical session with the forward packs to iron out these problems so that the players can understand, and for the referees to see what practically occurs in the scrum. Balie and Tappe also showed the referees how to fix these things and be more accurate with this aspect of the game.”

Swart, who recently joined the South African Rugby Union as a specialist Referees Scrummaging coach and as a referee selector, welcomed the initiative and confirmed that systems are in place to ensure that players, referees and coaches understand the correct scrummaging techniques.

“The problem is that we need to keep things simple, accurate and know that the safety of our players will always come first,” said Swart.

“We believe that referees are ‘safety officers’ at scrum time and hence the zero tolerance attitude for scrum infringements that causes scrums to collapse or disintegrate.

“There is a system that we have in place and we need everyone, including the players, referees and coaches to stick to this system. Referees must not simply just go with the flow, they have to abide to the laws of the game.

“What stands out and something that we have noticed is that it is not always the referee who is always wrong. Sometimes the techniques and the way players are coached results in referees not being accurate with their decisions on the field.

“We need the players, we need the referees and we need the coaches to contribute to a better and more free-flowing game.”

Henning added that the National Panel of eleven referees, who attended the workshop, would now take the message back to their respective provinces to ensure that the accurate application of the scrum laws are applied at all levels of the game.

“We are very excited about this project and this is only the start of it,” said Henning.

“We’ve had a great session with the players and had plenty of feedback from them. Unfortunately we have to begin at the top, but hopefully all the referees will spread the message so that it could infiltrate to the local clubs, schools and teams in their respective provinces.”

Vodacom Stormers assistant coach Matthew Proudfoot welcomed the exercise and expressed his union’s support for future workshops which would involve referees, players and coaches.

“On behalf of the Stormers and Western Province rugby, we would like to thank everyone involved with the SA Referees for initiating an exercise like this,” said Proudfoot.

“These workshops could only improve the understanding and communication of the correct law applications of the game between players, referees and coaches.”

Referees that attended the workshop: Jonathan Kaplan, Mark Lawrence, Marius Jonker, Craig Joubert, Phillip Bosch, Pro Legoete, Jaco Peyper, Joey Salmans, Stuart Berry, Sindile Mayende, Jason Jaftha.
 

Brumby Jack

Steve Williams (59)
Referees that attended the workshop: Craig Joubert
So we can assume he'll know what he's talking about at scrums for once? One A Baxter will be keen to learn of this development...
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Brumby Jack said:
Referees that attended the workshop: Craig Joubert
So we can assume he'll know what he's talking about at scrums for once? One A Baxter will be keen to learn of this development...
Time to do the same thing in Aus Boet, can be helpfull to Dickheadson & Walsh and add scrumming skills to some of the Aus fatties. ::)
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
PaarlBok said:
Brumby Jack said:
Referees that attended the workshop: Craig Joubert
So we can assume he'll know what he's talking about at scrums for once? One A Baxter will be keen to learn of this development...
Time to do the same thing in Aus Boet, can be helpfull to Dickheadson & Walsh and add scrumming skills to some of the Aus fatties. ::)

John Smit to teach our blokes how to scrum?
 
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Spook

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Biffo said:
PaarlBok said:
Brumby Jack said:
Referees that attended the workshop: Craig Joubert
So we can assume he'll know what he's talking about at scrums for once? One A Baxter will be keen to learn of this development...
Time to do the same thing in Aus Boet, can be helpfull to Dickheadson & Walsh and add scrumming skills to some of the Aus fatties. ::)

John Smit to teach our blokes how to scrum?

Only in the bizarre world of Paarl and Puppet or P&P if you will.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Spook said:
Biffo said:
PaarlBok said:
Brumby Jack said:
Referees that attended the workshop: Craig Joubert
So we can assume he'll know what he's talking about at scrums for once? One A Baxter will be keen to learn of this development...
Time to do the same thing in Aus Boet, can be helpfull to Dickheadson & Walsh and add scrumming skills to some of the Aus fatties. ::)

John Smit to teach our blokes how to scrum?

Only in the bizarre world of Paarl and Puppet or P&P if you will.
Bizarre world?

Reading the above crictics on Joubert. Last time the IRB head ref spat on some Aussie ref about the way he handled the scrujm which I thought was a bit bizarre.

That show there is a huge comminucation problem between refs. Can only a good thing if your refs, coaches and players get in a workshop and get that communication righte and learn from each other.

I may not a 30 something or a 60 something like yourself and Biff but I know you are never to old to learn from others.

Edit: rectified the qoute, was a bit pissed on my 15th birthday when I original post this on saturday. ;)
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
Staff member
If the refs are too strict on the attacking side, all games will be destroyed.
 
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chief

Guest
We don't want a repeat of Australia verses England at Twickenham do we now? Where Bryce Lawrence went about his clueless ways and decided to penalize the attacking team for trying to attack legally I might add. Way to kill the buzz Bryce.
 

Thomond78

Colin Windon (37)
chief said:
We don't want a repeat of Australia verses England at Twickenham do we now? Where Bryce Lawrence went about his clueless ways and decided to penalize the attacking team for trying to attack legally I might add. Way to kill the buzz Bryce.

That was not due to a philosophy of reffing, it was just honest-to-God incompetence in full flight. Bryce Lawrence is simply not up to it.

I confidently expect we will shortly see Mark change his name by deed poll to Mark Laurens, just so no-one ever thinks the two refs are related.
 
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Richard D. James

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PaarlBok said:
Round 1:
Blues v Hurricanes – Stuart Dickinson (Australia)
Force v Brumbies – Steve Walsh (Australia)
Cheetahs v Bulls – Jonathan Kaplan (South Africa)
Crusaders v Highlanders – Chris Pollock (New Zealand)
Reds v Waratahs – Craig Joubert (South Africa)
Lions v Stormers – Mark Lawrence (South Africa)
Sharks v Chiefs – Keith Brown (New Zealand)

Needs more Vinnie Munro.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
PaarlBok said:
Round 1:
Blues v Hurricanes – Stuart Dickinson (Australia)
Force v Brumbies – Steve Walsh (Australia)
Cheetahs v Bulls – Jonathan Kaplan (South Africa)
Crusaders v Highlanders – Chris Pollock (New Zealand)
Reds v Waratahs – Craig Joubert (South Africa)
Lions v Stormers – Mark Lawrence (South Africa)
Sharks v Chiefs – Keith Brown (New Zealand)

What happened to the much trumpeted policy of having "local" refs for "derbies"? See the two bolded appointments. Why not have Stu Dickinson do Reds and Tahs and B. Lawrence Blues and Hurricanes and Craig Joubert run a line in a school game somewhere?
 

Moses

Simon Poidevin (60)
Staff member
Gagger said:
PaarlBok said:
Round 1:
Steve Walsh (Australia)

Who woulda thought?
Sanity prevails, finally.
Can't wait till he gets a chance to exact his revenge on the NZRU, my pick would be the quarter final in 2011, All Blacks vs France.
 
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