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Reds v Rebels, Super Rugby Round 16, 1 June 2013

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Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Shiggins said:
Dude. Everyone is inside in a charge down
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Not sure about that and Im also not sure this was a charge down as it did not come off his hand or arm: see law 12.
http://www.irblaws.com/index.php?law=12
Offside is defined in law 11: http://www.irblaws.com/index.php?law=11
I cannot see where it says that if the ball was last played by way of a charge down that you cannot be offside.
I think you are relying on Law 11.4
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The 10-metre Law does not apply when a player kicks the ball, and an opponent charges down the kick, and a team-mate of the kicker who was in front of the imaginary 10-metre line across the field then plays the ball. The opponent was not 'waiting to play the ball' and the team-mate is onside. The 10-metre Law applies if the ball touches or is played by an opponent but is not charged down.
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As I read it this only applies to members of the kicker's team who were in front of the kicker.
 
AngrySeahorse

AngrySeahorse

Peter Sullivan (51)
Inside Shoulder said:
Have a think about it - its cannoned into the first bloke: all else being equal where is it going to rebound - forwards and the try scorer took it on the full.
Its line ball but sure worth a replay I thought - assuming the TMO can tule on that
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When you've got a ball going at a high velocity, like a clearing kick, it can make for some strange rebounds when it hits something or someone. A ball hitting the side of someone's upper arm on only a small part of the ball may come off different to hitting someone square on with solid contact on a larger surface of the ball. I've seen plenty of freak rebounds & ricochets, so like I said I reckon it went back - however it would be worth another look.

Geez! Higgers looks in trouble! Not good :(
 
Shiggins

Shiggins

Simon Poidevin (60)
Inside Shoulder said:
Not sure about that and Im also not sure this was a charge down as it did not come off his hand or arm: see law 12.
http://www.irblaws.com/index.php?law=12
Offside is defined in law 11: http://www.irblaws.com/index.php?law=11
I cannot see where it says that if the ball was last played by way of a charge down that you cannot be offside.
I think you are relying on Law 11.4

As I read it this only applies to members of the kicker's team who were in front of the kicker.
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I don't need to look at the laws. It's simple. If a charge down is made everyone is onside. However if u r saying its not a charge down then its a grey area.

Sorry if I sound arrogant mate. I have seen this happen a number o times
 
Inside Shoulder

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Shiggins said:
I don't need to look at the laws. It's simple. If a charge down is made everyone is onside. However if u r saying its not a charge down then its a grey area.

Sorry if I sound arrogant mate. I have seen this happen a number o times
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Give me the law that says in a charge down everyone is onside - I went to the trouble of trying to work it out because when you said I thought "shit that's right" but when I looked I'm not sure it is
 
ACR

ACR

Desmond Connor (43)
Good back line improvisation Rebels. Now do it at the advantage line and not 20m behind.
 
Shiggins

Shiggins

Simon Poidevin (60)
Inside Shoulder said:
Give me the law that says in a charge down everyone is onside - I went to the trouble of trying to work it out because when you said I thought "shit that's right" but when I looked I'm not sure it is
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I don't need to. It is what it is. If there is offside then a charge down would be a knock on.
 
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