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Reds v Rebels, Sat May 17 @ 7:40

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Chris McKivat (8)
Fingers in the eyes? Must be better vision on TV than at the game. Looked like he was giving a face rub after Higgers headbutt and initially wrestling on top of him.

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Herbert Moran (7)
oztimmay said:
Horwill quote 'stupid refeering decision'. Fuck you horwill,he fucking eye gouged him.
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I actually don't think he did, but he had his fingers over his face - just stupid.

That didn't lose the Reds the match. Their ineptitude, lack of fitness, lack of vision, lack of break down attack, lack of commitment in attack, lack of guts, lack of desire, lack of belief, lack of defensive structures, lack of.....well, everything, did.

Well played Rebels.
 
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Mark Ella (57)
From my viewing of the incidents, Ed O'Donohue head buts Higgers at the ruck, they have a wrestle and Higgers does his McCaw special back, then Ed loses his biscuit and goes the gouge. Even if it wasn't intentially a gouge he clenches his hand across the face of Higgers from an open palm position. It is not defensible.

Higgers didn't complain about the gouge, but did about the headbutt, before the penalty was even awarded against McMahon who I thought took reasonable action and didn't throw anything just dragged Ed O off his Captain.
 
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Even without the eye gouge I thought it was a shit decision to penalise McMahon for 3rd man. He wasn't doing a Thaiday 3rd man he was legit backing up a mate who had a player on top of them. He didn't go in looking for a fight he went in to pull Ed off his captain - the right response.
 
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Chris McKivat (8)
oztimmay said:
Horwill quote 'stupid refeering decision'. Fuck you horwill,he fucking eye gouged him.
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Horwill is just upset... To be fair to him there has been some dubious calls against the Reds this year do he's just getting angry! The Lions match? Stephen Moore's punch? I can understand players getting upset.

Having said that, the Reds played poorly and have done so since round 2 .. They have not adapted and change is needed!
 
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David Wilson (68)
I would suspect the only thing that will save OD getting a long suspension will be whether Higgers says fingers went his eyes, he will get a few weeks regardless as his hand shouldn't of been there!!
 
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Mark Ella (57)
I must say that the Reds really didn't deserve the win. They had close to 10 minutes in the Rebels 22 (or damn close to it) and what did they do. One out runners against a set defence. Just very poor use of the ball.

The Reds defence remains very bad with the same holes still there after what is it now 14 rounds?

Can Graham's position be defended anymore? There have been no improvements throughout the season. The same failures in each game. The Reds did play with much more urgency than in previous weeks and that is the best I can say about them.

One final point Jones outplayed Horwill and Simmons combined. He MUST make the Wallabies this year.
 
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Tom Lawton (22)
At this stage, I'd say Horwill is 50-50 to be read out as a member of the extended squad, much less a potential starter.
 
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Tim Horan (67)
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QC (Quade Cooper) AC joint isn't too bad from all reports.

It wasn't Walsh who pulled it back for the ridiculous penalty at the end it was the TMO
 
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Train Without a Station

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Sully said:
QC (Quade Cooper) AC joint isn't too bad from all reports.

It wasn't Walsh who pulled it back for the ridiculous penalty at the end it was the TMO
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Walsh seemed to be reluctant as he didn't seem to be as certain as the TMO.
 
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Peter Sullivan (51)
Train Without a Station said:
If it goes to the judiciary and Ed is found guilty fair enough.

But Walsh is watching the same footage and sees nothing, yet the TMO claims he CLEARLY sees a red card offence. What happens if EOD gets off the charge? Rebels just gifted the victory on a incorrect call?

I admit when you slow it down and pause it it looks like there could be a gouge, but making real time calls in paused footage can be misleading. Higginbotham has did not claim any foul play from it and his exception was taken to actions prior.

If he's found guilty all good, but a game changing call, which Walsh clearly did not want to make but had no choice but to.
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I thought it was more of a nostril gouge at real time speed, when paused it looked like eyes.

Why didn't Higgers complain straight away considering the position on the field where it occurred?

I don't know if it was the 100% correct call, but am happy to see any fingers to the face be a red card
 
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