Reds 2017
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What. you're telling me there's rugby outside of Sydney Reg?
In all seriousness in the right environment a player can improve dramatically on the technical aspects of scrummaging. Coupled with the right strength they should improve dramatically as a scrummager.
I'd saying playing under Nick Stiles in QLD has been shown to be the right environment for that (Can't say the same for a lot of other parts of the game though!).
Barring any genetic limitations, Tupou should be able to be developed into an equal or better scrummager as Robertson within 2 years.
I don't any environment is going to teach Robertson to be anywhere as good around the ground as Tupou is though. A lot of that ability is something you either have, or you don't.
In all seriousness in the right environment a player can improve dramatically on the technical aspects of scrummaging. Coupled with the right strength they should improve dramatically as a scrummager.
I'd saying playing under Nick Stiles in QLD has been shown to be the right environment for that (Can't say the same for a lot of other parts of the game though!).
Barring any genetic limitations, Tupou should be able to be developed into an equal or better scrummager as Robertson within 2 years.
I don't any environment is going to teach Robertson to be anywhere as good around the ground as Tupou is though. A lot of that ability is something you either have, or you don't.
David Connors
Sydney Middleton (9)
Heard on the grapevine that Mack Mason has signed with the force. Maybe doesnt want to be stuck behind Quade and Mcintyre?
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Mark Ella (57)
When you talk of young prop prospects like Robertson and Tupou experience comes from packing down in scrums.
It is better when your scrum is the dominant one and its fair to say the Reds scrum should be as good as the last couple of years (even with Holmes missing).
If Tupou works hard and is mentored right he will improve at scrumtime quite quickly. He is superior to Tom around the park.
Anyway it is really promising to have 3 good youngTHP's fighting for position behind Kepu.
It will be an interesting battle
It is better when your scrum is the dominant one and its fair to say the Reds scrum should be as good as the last couple of years (even with Holmes missing).
If Tupou works hard and is mentored right he will improve at scrumtime quite quickly. He is superior to Tom around the park.
Anyway it is really promising to have 3 good youngTHP's fighting for position behind Kepu.
It will be an interesting battle
hammertimethere
Trevor Allan (34)
Robertson has a better shape for LHP anyway. He's young, plenty of time to figure that out
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Chilla Wilson (44)
I know different coaches have opinions about shape of LH v TH, but what looking at the shapes of highly successful players proves is these opinions don't hold true.
All props are muscular and heavy, but other than that tall, fat, whatever, it's all talent.
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Peter Johnson (47)
I heard we are paying him barely anything, was lucky to get renewed. If he didn't have a solid season after 'finding his confidence' in japan, he would have been lucky to go around again. Hope he sticks around but at bare minimum.
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Peter Johnson (47)
Would be a shame, though he was at the reds on an u20 contract. Third will probably move into the '3rd string' FH role, no pun intended.
Will we see Lucas back in Aus after his Japan stint? Would be a perfect bench option for the Reds to cover 9, 10 and FB. Tuttle needs a bit more time and mcintyre will continue to be.....solid.
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Peter Sullivan (51)
Who pays for rehab? Surely the team that "causes" the injury would be liable.
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Trevor Allan (34)
Part of every contract you would think that if you get injured playing or training for someone then they pay for the surgery and rehab.
I know a couple of Aus players in Japan have flown back for surgery here.
I know a couple of Aus players in Japan have flown back for surgery here.
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Trevor Allan (34)
Also how good has Duncan P been for QLD country! Played very strongly on the weekend. He'll be a strong option for the Reds in 2017/18
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Duncan P was a good option at the start of 2016 IMO, the best the Reds backline looked in 2016 was in the trial games when Duncan P ran at inside centre, i found it baffling that RG/MOC never ran that as a combo during the season.
He loses composure occasionally with silly decisions, but that's part of the parcel with some of these younger riskier type playmakers.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
^^^ Campo-esque.
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Peter Sullivan (51)
Yes he is to blame for the last minute mistake, but was it his fault we lost or was it the team when considered over 80 minutes?
If he had not set up a try earlier in the game then we would have lost before full time.
Yes it was a massive mistake and thank god it was at NRC level and not Super Rugby level but I like to consider what a player offers over their whole game.
How many points to they allow their team to score minus what they cost the team.
This is why I have stuck by Cooper for so long, he has many faults in defence but he gets us points and is a net positive while on the field, DP will do this as well.
NRC is there for learning
If he had not set up a try earlier in the game then we would have lost before full time.
Yes it was a massive mistake and thank god it was at NRC level and not Super Rugby level but I like to consider what a player offers over their whole game.
How many points to they allow their team to score minus what they cost the team.
This is why I have stuck by Cooper for so long, he has many faults in defence but he gets us points and is a net positive while on the field, DP will do this as well.
NRC is there for learning
TSR
Andrew Slack (58)
From memory, he set up two of our tries and had a hand in two others, plus created a number of other line breaks.
Whilst the fall out of his pass over the sideline is disappointing, my bigger concern is that he did appear to fall of a few tackles.
Generally speaking, tackling appears optional a lot of the time in the NRC, but if he is going to be a regular in Super rugby, he'll have to improve there.
Whilst the fall out of his pass over the sideline is disappointing, my bigger concern is that he did appear to fall of a few tackles.
Generally speaking, tackling appears optional a lot of the time in the NRC, but if he is going to be a regular in Super rugby, he'll have to improve there.
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Peter Sullivan (51)
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Trevor Allan (34)
His defense has been solid over the course of the NRC. Not Ant Fainga'a esque but not poor
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