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Reds 2011

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Brumbies Guy

John Solomon (38)
BR said it had no relevance, im just saying there is a relevance, no need to be a smartarse

I still agree with Bruce Ross that there is no sports relevance in the exercise. To liken the motion of the exercise to a fend is scraping the barrel a bit, especially on a heavy weight level. You would be better off focusing on plyometric based exercises
 

Bruce Ross

Ken Catchpole (46)
It would probably be helpful for grabbing someone by the collar.

I think that you have the effort going in the wrong direction, TK. If you grap someone by the collar presumably you intend to pull them towards you. The bench pull would be the relevant exercise.
 

DPK

Peter Sullivan (51)
I think that you have the effort going in the wrong direction, TK. If you grap someone by the collar presumably you intend to pull them towards you. The bench pull would be the relevant exercise.

True if you pull the bloke towards you, grabbing the collar in an underhand fashion. However, grabbing the collar in an overhand fashion to keep yourself out of the other blokes reach would probably be aided by bench presses. You are right though, Bruce.

A lot of the time there is just pushing and shoving, bench presses would give that a bit of power.
 

Brumbies Guy

John Solomon (38)
True if you pull the bloke towards you, grabbing the collar in an underhand fashion. However, grabbing the collar in an overhand fashion to keep yourself out of the other blokes reach would probably be aided by bench presses. You are right though, Bruce.

A lot of the time there is just pushing and shoving, bench presses would give that a bit of power.

Not forgetting the power needed to push yourself back up onto your feet after a missed tackle. Quade does seem to have developed quite the chest.
 
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#1 Tah

Chilla Wilson (44)
The only difference between the reds this season and last, is that there is expectation on them this year. When there was expectation on them towards the end of last year, they crashed and burnt. I am looking forward to seeing how link deals with this enourmous mental challenge the players must overcome.
 

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Rocky Elsom (76)
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To be fair that's not the only difference. Expectation is there sure but so is, I am sure, self belief and self confidence and of course experience. I mean last year it was noted that we didn't have test players in the pack. Now Daley, Fainga'a, Slipper, Simmons and Higginbotham have played tests. Plus we've signed Guy Shepherdson.
 
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Considering there injury toll at the end of the season, i dont really think it was a case of crash and burning when the pressure was applied, below is the players who were injured in the last 3 games of the year..

Brumbies: Weeks, Humphries and Davies
Hurricanes: Byrnes, Simmons, Braid, Weeks
Highlanders: Fainga'a(x2), Davies, Daley, Braid, Simmons, Byrnes and Weeks
 

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David Codey (61)
To be fair that's not the only difference. Expectation is there sure but so is, I am sure, self belief and self confidence and of course experience. I mean last year it was noted that we didn't have test players in the pack. Now Daley, Fainga'a, Slipper, Simmons and Higginbotham have played tests. Plus we've signed Guy Shepherdson.
Yeah RR you are right & wrong there.
the 5 you mention, gained selection due to their terrific form with the Reds last season. I think it unlikely all 5 will maintain form and/or remain uninjured the whole year.
Secondly, Braid leaves a much bigger hole than most credit. His influence on the unit was more than just his on field performance. He will be missed.
Thirdly,how is their self belief & self confidence going to be, once they experience QC (Quade Cooper) lose them 2 or 3 games due to a brain fart or his refusal to be accountable defensively?
 
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Yeah RR you are right & wrong there.
the 5 you mention, gained selection due to their terrific form with the Reds last season. I think it unlikely all 5 will maintain form and/or remain uninjured the whole year.
Secondly, Braid leaves a much bigger hole than most credit. His influence on the unit was more than just his on field performance. He will be missed.
Thirdly,how is their self belief & self confidence going to be, once they experience QC (Quade Cooper) lose them 2 or 3 games due to a brain fart or his refusal to be accountable defensively?

Firstly, you are correct, those 5 probably wont be starting every game, however the Reds have developed quite a good scattering of mature backup players, not to mention the return of Horwill.
Secondly, yes Braid will leave a hole in the side(more then just his onfield presence), however once again this is offset by the return of Horwill and the further development of other players, the Reds did won 2 out of the 3 games that they played without Braid in 2010
Thirdly, QC (Quade Cooper) didnt lose a game for the Reds in 2010, theres no reason why he will in 2011
 

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Mark Ella (57)
The Reds strength with this squad is that it is diverse with players that can play different styles of Rugby. It will be hard for opposition teams to form a game plan against them. The Reds developed a lot this year but I think we tend to forget that so did Link in his coaching experience. Though it must have been dificult at the time Link inheriting a mostly formed squad late in the year would of also been good for him. With little time to reform the style of his new squad and having to continue building on the foundations in place, he has diversified his perspective in regards to tactics. A year later with his own squad, it looks to be formed with the intent of playing different styles of rugby. I think the game plans form link this year may be very different from week to week.
 
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Not really, just look at what the All Blacks did to the Wallabies in three and a half of their games this year.

whats this have to do with anything, wallabies and reds have different playing styles, even then your comparing international rugby to super rugby, bit of a difference.
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
I am happy to disagree about QC (Quade Cooper). I am just glad he is not a Tah.

I'd give him a go. He's not much of a tackler but neither was Beale in his younger days when he played 10. The Tahs did OK except in his 1st year (when he was 18 and incidentally: Waugh missed most of the season.)

The Tahs could use some X-factor and with Cooper at 10 and Barnes at 12 they would have the same combo that Deans finally settled on for the Wallabies. I like Cooper, warts and all, because he has the Wally Lewis ability of making opponents stop to watch what he is doing. Once the drifters stop to watch more things become possible out wide.

I get the feeling that opponents will work him out and form plans to blunt his creativeness (denying good ball is an excellent ploy) but meantime, in a parallel universe, I wouldn't mind seeing him in the light blue jersey.
 

DPK

Peter Sullivan (51)
A form Barnes just means he's kicking well.

No, it doesn't. It means he kicks well, runs well in attack and runs the attack well, and leads the defensive line forward and tackles at 100%. The last two things make him better than Cooper.
 
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