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Well I want to (first and last time, I promise...), Barnes can almost be held, single-handedly, responsible for the position the Reds are in now.

IF Barnes had don the noble thing and stayed at the reds, NOTHING would have changed, they would have done their season review and "got on with it". Him leaving forced change and that change has flowed on to what we see now.

He chose to change employers, nothing at all wrong with that, but there should be no hate.

I absolutely agree, his departure was the catalyst for some real structual changes at the Reds coaching level and even in the QRU management level...
Some of those might have happened inevitably anyway, but his departure brought those things forward a bit.
 

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Paul McLean (56)
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Well I want to (first and last time, I promise...), Barnes can almost be held, single-handedly, responsible for the position the Reds are in now.

IF Barnes had don the noble thing and stayed at the reds, NOTHING would have changed, they would have done their season review and "got on with it". Him leaving forced change and that change has flowed on to what we see now.

He chose to change employers, nothing at all wrong with that, but there should be no hate.

If he had gone knowing everything would be better at Ballymore because of it then I would hold no hard feelings. But he jumped ship because he thought it was sinking. Also he made all the right noises about staying and asked for extra time to sort some things out before signing then went behind the QRU's back and signed with the Tah's. I have no time for him.
 

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Trevor Allan (34)
I suppose in essence they are, but Drew left for the money, i cant honestly blame anyone who switches jobs/teams for money, its a reality of life..

Barnes on the other hand left because of ..... a perceived easier opportunity to win a super14 premiership at the Tahs??

I dunno, it doesnt bother me anymore, it seemed it worked out better for both teams anyway...

Both are gutless mercenaries, however I hold the most contempt for BB. Wonderful player that he is, he is still a JUDAS and will forever be so stained.
 

Finsbury Girl

Trevor Allan (34)
Anyways back to Qld footy. How many native banana benders are in the squad this year?

As I've been away from Yoku Rd for a wee while now, any decent players come into the squad from the Premier comp?
 

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Tony Shaw (54)
If he had gone knowing everything would be better at Ballymore because of it then I would hold no hard feelings. But he jumped ship because he thought it was sinking. Also he made all the right noises about staying and asked for extra time to sort some things out before signing then went behind the QRU's back and signed with the Tah's. I have no time for him.

He didn't jump ship because he thought it was sinking he jumped ship because he knew it was sinking. That's not such a dumb thing to do. Going down with the ship to the tune of "Abide with me" is not necessarily the act of a rational person unless you believe in the hereafter. And the ship had to be rescued and the actions of Barnes and Elsom helped precipitate that. No bad thing in the long run.

Time for everyone to move on.
 
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Agree it is time to move on - but do allow us to remain a tad pissed of with all involved back then. And, I suppose, not that keen to have him back. Interestingly, it seems Link is not that keen on him anyway... He tweeted a few days ago when it was reported that Barnes had shut the door on the reds:

"Berwick shuts gate on the Reds" no one bothered to ask if the Reds actually wanted him - complete journalism?

My favourite part... he actually spelt Sookface's name wrong...

:)
 

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Mark Ella (57)
Ha ha, I love this shit. Is it because Barnes left QLD or that he went to NSW? Personally I found the Moore defection a harder pill to swallow. It is all water under the bridge now.
 

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Mark Ella (57)
Ha ha, I love this shit. Is it because Barnes left QLD or that he went to NSW? Personally I found the Moore defection a harder pill to swallow. It is all water under the bridge now.

That's probably because Moore went to NSW subbies
 

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Chilla Wilson (44)
I was pissed off at Barnes for a while there but I'm over it now, He gave 100% whenever he played for the Reds.

From all reports I've read he asked for a one year contract the Reds said no & the Tahs said yes. He's now signed on for another two years without little fuss so he must be happier at the Tahs.
 
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Reds at 12'150 members, the jersey this weekend will be a one-off for the QLD flood appeal.
 
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