Rebels 2018

[GoMelbRebels]

Rebels, even with their advantage in players and money will never get a real foothold in Melbourne in the next few years.

Support is scarce except for a few diehards.

Can you be my life coach? Please?

 

[jimmydubs]

Perfectly happy to have the Rebels suck up every decent player in the country, win the conference, attend finals, have a crack at the title, and have a high representation at Wallaby level every year.

Not a supporter in the country who doesn’t want the same thing for their team.

And please don’t tell me the Rebels need to rationalise with the other 3 teams for the good of the code in this country, or that any Rebels success will be manufactured or based on the ashes of another team. I couldn’t care less.

And as for the salary cap, that’s an issue for the Rebels management and RA. They clearly know what’s going on, and have some kind of agreement in place, whether some like it or not.

Selfish? You bet. Win or lose, I am a Rebels supporter; I don’t recall that position implying I had to share my support with any other team, or hope they are successful in any way.

And go broke before that first final series begins.

Go the Melbourne Mortgage Rebels!

 

[GoMelbRebels]

And go broke before that first final series begins.

Go the Melbourne Mortgage Rebels!

Comedy writing not your forte, then?

 

[James Pettifer]

Rebels, even with their advantage in players and money will never get a real foothold in Melbourne in the next few years.

Support is scarce except for a few diehards.

The Storm seem to do alright and League is a lot less embedded in Melbourne than Union.

 

[GoMelbRebels]

The Storm seem to do alright and League is a lot less embedded in Melbourne than Union.

The Storm do well in Melbourne because they are a winning team. We need to emulate that success.

 

[TOCC]

I would have thought with your amazing grass roots programs and mega rugby depth across the whole state that really only plays Rugby (union and league) compared with, say Vic, you would be spoiled for choice in up and coming talent and bursting at the seams with organic growth and a fully detailed succession plan for players - and coaches - it's not like you guys are a johnnie come lately to rugby, so stand on your own two feet guys and show us the talent you keep saying you have. This is really directed to Reds supporters who read this forum, not Swingpass, who is obviously Victorian

Which reds supporters? you wouldn’t find a single one who actually believes or said what you just wrote..

You know I’ve been a supporter of the Force and Rebels for many years, adopting them as my second team and willing them to succeed. That doesn’t excuse them of criticism, as I do with my own team, if the management or coaching deserve it then I will offer my opinion. But I won’t ever broadly criticise another clubs supporters like this, it serves no purpose in forums.

 

[Brumby Runner]

Perfectly happy to have the Rebels suck up every decent player in the country, win the conference, attend finals, have a crack at the title, and have a high representation at Wallaby level every year.

Not a supporter in the country who doesn’t want the same thing for their team.

And please don’t tell me the Rebels need to rationalise with the other 3 teams for the good of the code in this country, or that any Rebels success will be manufactured or based on the ashes of another team. I couldn’t care less.

And as for the salary cap, that’s an issue for the Rebels management and RA. They clearly know what’s going on, and have some kind of agreement in place, whether some like it or not.

Selfish? You bet. Win or lose, I am a Rebels supporter; I don’t recall that position implying I had to share my support with any other team, or hope they are successful in any way.

Daz, I sincerely hope your comments about the ashes of another team are not shared by your new found coach and majority of senior players, otherwise you could be in for a whole lot of disappointment in 2018.

 

[daz]

Daz, I sincerely hope your comments about the ashes of another team are not shared by your new found coach and majority of senior players, otherwise you could be in for a whole lot of disappointment in 2018.

You really think the ex-Force players are going to be so sad about the demise of their former club that they will not want to play well in a Rebels shirt, or that the coach will not coach to the best of his ability because he wanted to stay in Perth?

Absolutely laughable. They are pro players being paid to do a job.

You think teams have never folded before, or players haven’t been moved to teams they normally wouldn’t go to? They adapt, accept and forget.

Come and have a look at training one day, they all look pretty fucking happy and on point to me.

 

[Slim 293]

Thanks for insights, Nostradamus. I'm staggered to the point of speechlessness at calls from QLDers for Rebels to release talent so as to 'equalise' the spread across the four unions. You blokes are fucking *cooked*. Get stuffed. Sit back for a season, maybe two, and experience what WA and VIC fans have felt since day dot.

What have Vic fans experienced in regards to this?

 

[Brumby Runner]

Yeah, there's a whole lot of vitriol and "fuck you, I'm all right Jack" coming out of some rebels' fans nowadays.

 

[GoMelbRebels]

Yeah, there's a whole lot of vitriol and "fuck you, I'm all right Jack" coming out of some rebels' fans nowadays.

OK, maybe it wasn’t articulated the best (or delicately), but I get the point made. The “northern” states didn’t care that WA and VIC had slimmer pickings than they did in the past. Now the foot is in the other hand (Flying High reference, thank you!) there is wailing and gnashing of teeth from the north. True, there should have always been equilibrium amongst the teams. As that isn’t policy, it’s every team for themselves.

 

[dru]

Yeah, there's a whole lot of vitriol and "fuck you, I'm all right Jack" coming out of some rebels' fans nowadays.

This said, they look hot in 2017. The only team likely to give the Kiwis a run, Brumbies maybe, but Rebels definitely. I really look forward to seeing what Wessels does with this lot.

 

[Tex]

What have Vic fans experienced in regards to this?

Scraping by with a team of largely consisting of journeymen with the odd rough gem and late-career pro thrown in, while watching the bulk of the representative players suit up for QLD and NSW, and to a lesser extent ACT. I find it galling that fans from WA and VIC were put through a year of hell and a sham process 'for the good of Australian rugby', the WA fans have had their team cut 'for the good of Australian rugby', and now there are calls from fans of the powerhouse teams for the Rebels to share talent, 'for the good of Australian rugby'. I'm genuinely concerned that the QLD sun has done irreparable damage to some of them up there.

 

[Highlander35]

The big one (that I'm still salty over at lest) is one Mr Foley, for whom Chieka obtained a Wallabies Contract (which he hadn't yet earned at the time) just to match, that's right match, not exceed, a Rebels contract which he'd intended to sign.

I'm sure there are other more informed people who could give other instances, but the 3 northern sides have not been shy about stockpiling talent in the past, very recently or otherwise.

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[Slim 293]

Scraping by with a team of largely consisting of journeymen with the odd rough gem and late-career pro thrown in, while watching the bulk of the representative players suit up for QLD and NSW, and to a lesser extent ACT.

OK.........

I don't agree with some of the whining regarding the Rebels stockpiling of talent for 2018 - that's every team's perogative, although I do believe that if players want a release it should be granted for the best of both parties......... however I don't think you guys have any legitimate grounds to feel aggrieved by the other teams or RA when it comes to playing rosters.

And the Rebels had more regular representation in the Wallabies this year than some other teams.

 

[Boof1050]

OK...

I don't agree with the whining regarding the Rebels stockpiling of talent for 2018 (although I do believe that if players want a release it should be granted for the best of both parties), however I don't think you guys have any legitimate grounds to feel aggrieved by the other teams or RA when it comes to playing rosters.

Nor the coin that’s been lent or forgotten about. I think what pisses people of the most is the way things have rolled through for you guys.

 

[lou75]

Which reds supporters? you wouldn’t find a single one who actually believes or said what you just wrote..

You know I’ve been a supporter of the Force and Rebels for many years, adopting them as my second team and willing them to succeed. That doesn’t excuse them of criticism, as I do with my own team, if the management or coaching deserve it then I will offer my opinion. But I won’t ever broadly criticise another clubs supporters like this, it serves no purpose in forums.

Yeah all right, it was just a vent. Go Reds

 

[Scrubber2050]

Thing is that the Rebels have heaps and heaps of players, some good, plenty pedestrian and some woeful.

The List is large.

Funny thing about rugby - you can only select 15 starters and 8 blokes on the pine.

There will be plenty of disappointed players down there and often that disappointment leads to some infighting and the erosion of culture (which may be lacking anyway).

The Rebels were always my number 2 team. Now with their greediness in not releasing a bloke or 2 (who want to be released) to play for another Aussie Franchise (yet will release said player/s to play in England) they have "lost" me and go to the bottom of the pile.

In fact I would barrack for any African, Japanese, Argentine or even NZ team over the Rebels.

 

[Highlander35]

not releasing a bloke or 2 (who want to be released) to play for another Aussie Franchise (yet will release said player/s to play in England).

Putting aside the rife speculation and salt.

This is not greediness. This is intelligence. Unless the ARU specifically tells the Rebels to release a player there is no benefit to releasing a contracted player to strengthen a direct rival for nothing except for cash relief, particularly if the player is willing (reluctantly or otherwise) to stay or head overseas. Once again, coming from a football (sokkah) background, it's a very professional approach from the Rebels backroom, and a quality decision that doesn't seem to have existed in Australian Rugby. Definitely seems to me much more that the Reds and the QRU are scrambling post Thorn and calling foul to cover their own incompetence, and now some fans/insiders have bought it hook, line and sinker.

 

[GoMelbRebels]

Thing is that the Rebels have heaps and heaps of players, some good, plenty pedestrian and some woeful.

The List is large.

Funny thing about rugby - you can only select 15 starters and 8 blokes on the pine.

There will be plenty of disappointed players down there and often that disappointment leads to some infighting and the erosion of culture (which may be lacking anyway).

The Rebels were always my number 2 team. Now with their greediness in not releasing a bloke or 2 (who want to be released) to play for another Aussie Franchise (yet will release said player/s to play in England) they have "lost" me and go to the bottom of the pile.

In fact I would barrack for any African, Japanese, Argentine or even NZ team over the Rebels.

I think it is a sign of success when people start to hate you. I for one hate the Pats.