What we sort of expected anyway. couldn't see any of the Reds scrummies giving up their spot for Genia, and he needs an OZ home. Guess they are waiting for the arbitration outcome to makeannouncementment.
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What we sort of expected anyway. couldn't see any of the Reds scrummies giving up their spot for Genia, and he needs an OZ home. Guess they are waiting for the arbitration outcome to makeannouncementment.
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Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Oh, FFS, I wish they would just decide already!
swingpass
Peter Sullivan (51)
this business has a long long way to run yet. i'm not confident we will be a bunch of happy campers at the end.
GoMelbRebels
Nicholas Shehadie (39)
That's why I would prefer to know now, rather than wait anothe 100 days.
I don't want our team dropped, but if we are to be, I don't want it prolonged any further.
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daz
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If the Force win arbitration, or lose arbitration but then appeal, then by virtue of time-frames alone there simply has to be 16 teams (5 x Oz) next year.
The appeal will likely take months, and SANZAAR needs to sort out 2018 schedules, grounds, hotels, flights, etc, etc.
My point is this; if we go into 2018 with 5 teams, how are we (Rebels) going to be even close to competitive? Half our team have moved on, and that means we will be bulking up the squad with unsigned journeyman OS players and Shute/Dewar players.
The appeal will likely take months, and SANZAAR needs to sort out 2018 schedules, grounds, hotels, flights, etc, etc.
My point is this; if we go into 2018 with 5 teams, how are we (Rebels) going to be even close to competitive? Half our team have moved on, and that means we will be bulking up the squad with unsigned journeyman OS players and Shute/Dewar players.
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Nicholas Shehadie (39)
My understanding is going to appeal is much harder with arbitration. So appeal is not a given.
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daz
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Fuck, how did I forget that?
Not to worry, we will simply draw names out of the GAGR hat and take turns giving them a spray pre-and post game.
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daz
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If it comes down to who has the better resources to fight that battle, I'd be looking at Twiggy's pockets and Clyne's pockets to see which are deeper.
Even if the ARU win arbitration in a canter, if I was Twiggy, I'd be appealing just out of sheer spite and bloody-mindedness!
Yes, you need to appeal on a specific error in how the law was applied in the case, not just a "we don't like the response you gave us". A bit like trying to argue on the vibe of the issue".
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Cyril Towers (30)
yes but I don't think that would be too hard if the argument is specifically about whether this is the current or a new broadcast agreement.
When SANZAAR themselves have called it the current broadcast agreement it leaves little room for the ARU to claim otherwise and not have a large area of doubt in the decision if it were to go against the WF.
I'm not a lawyer or have much to do with the law other than my own issues over the years.
Brumby Jack
Steve Williams (59)
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Jason Little (69)
But the broadcasters have committed to their full obligations until 2020. Can't see that they would be financially compromised by the retention of 5 Aus franchises.
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Chris McKivat (8)
RWA went into the arbitration with the option to appeal the decision.
If RWA/WF loses, expect an appeal, as the alternative is for them all to pack up their shit and go home.
I think Daz is right and it'll have to end up with 5 Australian based teams next year. There just isn't enough time to work it all out if there is an appeal or if the ARU can't get the licence back from Imperium.
The commitment part is not the problem; it's more focused on having a product for the broadcasters. If there is a dispute on what teams are included, and the competition is not sufficiently prepared in the time for round one, there is a risk the broadcast partners have nothing to broadcast. THat would concern them, as it would impact upon advertising revenue.
Mr Wobbly
Alan Cameron (40)
I ain't no lawyer but I don't think that's the way arbitration works:
Limited right of Appeal. Court proceedings at first instance might be amenable to one or possibly two levels of appeal. Arbitration is final, subject to very limited rights of appeal. Under the CAA for example, an appeal can only be made on a question of law on very limited grounds if the parties 'opt in' and agree no later than three months from the making of the award to preserve appeal rights and obtain leave of the court.
http://www.mondaq.com/australia/x/3...arbitration+regime+in+Australia+Five+years+on
Mr Wobbly
Alan Cameron (40)
I'm in two minds about Genia.
One one hand, we could definitely use a player of his calibre. He might be just the bloke to bully our young forward pack into shape plus, he would be able to help bring on Goddard.
But, on the other hand, it's Genia.
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