Quade telling it how it is

[Nelse]

Then why isn't he fronting up for interviews giving details of what he perceives is wrong?How about a press release drafted by his managerto clarify his position?
Why no follow up tweets?
Why delete some of his tweets if he is fighting for truth,justice and the Cooper way?

Apparently he'll be on the Rugby Club tomorrow. So we know he's gonna get some hard hitting questions

 

[Richo]

Yes, the difference is that Quade is part of the team and actually knows what is going on first hand. People postiing on the internet are largely speculating.

If he was in any other organisation he would be what is called a whistleblower. WA actually has specific legislation to protect whistleblowers.

As others have said, this is just nonsense. Not to mention that Quade isn't exposing illegality, fraudulent behaviour, or any kind of real malfeasance. He just reckons the ARU is badly run and that Deans isn't coaching the team well.

What his detractors seem to want him to do is shut up and maintain the status quo, can't go upsetting the old boys club, can we now. Never speak out about the company.

When did anyone talk about not upsetting the old boys club? Beyond that, most the criticisms of Quade have been of his actions, not in defense of the status quo. It is, in fact, possible to have a very low opinion of the status quo and to think Quade is behaving poorly. The two are not mutually exclusive.

 

[fatprop]

You have no idea what work Cooper puts in at training or getting back from injury sitting behind a desk in NSW. lets face it no matter what Cooper does you will never support him because he doesn't ware sky blue on his back.

bullocks, is anyone "in sky blue" questioning Genia, Pocock, Iaone or Horwill?

If he was playing well and not acting like a petulant fool this thread wouldn't exist.

 

[Scoey]

“I love rugby but there’s s–t going on behind and above the players the effects the whole organisation! Happens at the reds few years back.”
His next tweet complained about only being allowed to play between feb & may.
What do you think he meant?

I'm not a mind reader but I reckon he probably meant that there's shit going on behind the scenes and above the players at the Wallabies that is having an impact on the whole organisation. Similar to the sort of problems that they had at the Reds.

 

[Scoey]

bullocks, is anyone "in sky blue" questioning Genia, Pocock, Iaone or Horwill?

If he was playing well and not acting like a petulant fool this thread wouldn't exist.

BS. Genia was mentioned in this thread and he was mentioned on the basis that he plays for QLD. But aside from that, it's no illusion that most of the support for QC (Quade Cooper) is from Reds supporters and most of the vitriol is coming from non-Reds supporters. It's pretty clear.

I get it. There are players in every franchise that polarise opinions. QC (Quade Cooper), Tom Carter etc. If he was playing well this topic would still exist, it would just be a lot shorter. It is because not everyone thinks he is petulant that it would still exist.

 

[East Coast Aces]

Does anyone else think that the ARU's silence in response to these tweets is a bad sign for the future of the current coaching setup?

Lets say, for the sake of this theory, that Deans is a dead man walking, his fate was sealed at some point in this TRC. It would be very hypocritical to condemn or punish the whistle blower.

 

[Braveheart81]

Does anyone else think that the ARU's silence in response to these tweets is a bad sign for the future of the current coaching setup?

Lets say, for the sake of this theory, that Deans is a dead man walking, his fate was sealed at some point in this TRC. It would be very hypocritical to condemn or punish the whistle blower.

I don't think so. I think it's more likely that the ARU wants to draw as little attention to it as possible when we have two big test matches in the next 10 days.

 

[HG]

bullocks, is anyone "in sky blue" questioning Genia, Pocock, Iaone or Horwill?

If he was playing well and not acting like a petulant fool this thread wouldn't exist.

Alright then, lets say cooper gets the punt and all is good at the Wallabies, why is it that past coaches and others in the media are calling for an inquire into the ARU similar to what the Reds went through?
Also Cooper calls it a day and heads off who the fuck will you get to replace him at the national level? Barns, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), he has just about played every where else in the backs, or maybe JOC (James O'Connor), he is cut out of the same mold as Cooper and has had a few problems of his own, KB (Kurtley Beale), see QC (Quade Cooper) and JOC (James O'Connor), get you head out of your arse and smell the roses something is not right in the ARU and the Wallabies, sure not the smartest move by QC (Quade Cooper) but if it gets some action then all good for me.
Lets see how things go this weekend in SA, I think we will be flogged and lucky to win in Argentina. It will be the end of Deans and Link will take over.
I have been following rugby for over 40 years, as a player, coach and referee and this is as bad as I have seen for a completely rudderless Wallabies and it is not just this year the problems started to surface it was around 2 years back now.

 

[Braveheart81]

The only person I have heard quoted saying that the ARU should investigate his claims is Russell Fairfax who is also saying that the Roosters should try and sign him. I'm going to put it out there that it is in his interests to add fuel to the fire.

 

[Tangawizi]

I wonder if Gits will come back if Robbie goes.

He seems to be going well at Toulon this season.

 

[East Coast Aces]

It certainly seems to me that Cooper noted what happened between Gits and Deans at the end of 2010 and into 2011 and doesn't want to sit on the sidelines and bite his tongue while the wallabies continue to just miss their potential.

 

[I like to watch]

Alright then, lets say cooper gets the punt and all is good at the Wallabies, why is it that past coaches and others in the media are calling for an inquire into the ARU similar to what the Reds went through?
Also Cooper calls it a day and heads off who the fuck will you get to replace him at the national level? Barns, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), he has just about played every where else in the backs, or maybe JOC (James O'Connor), he is cut out of the same mold as Cooper and has had a few problems of his own, KB (Kurtley Beale), see QC (Quade Cooper) and JOC (James O'Connor), get you head out of your arse and smell the roses something is not right in the ARU and the Wallabies, sure not the smartest move by QC (Quade Cooper) but if it gets some action then all good for me.
Lets see how things go this weekend in SA, I think we will be flogged and lucky to win in Argentina. It will be the end of Deans and Link will take over.
I have been following rugby for over 40 years, as a player, coach and referee and this is as bad as I have seen for a completely rudderless Wallabies and it is not just this year the problems started to surface it was around 2 years back now.

I don't get your point, You can't get rid of him because JOC (James O'Connor) & KB (Kurtley Beale) are just as bad?
So therefore RD is incompetent and must be sacked?
BTW I read somewhere that Nucifora has been promised the job next.
So whatever happens Link stays at the Reds apparently.

 

[I like to watch]

It certainly seems to me that Cooper noted what happened between Gits and Deans at the end of 2010 and into 2011 and doesn't want to sit on the sidelines and bite his tongue while the wallabies continue to just miss their potential.

That's better!

 

[HG]

I don't get your point, QC (Quade Cooper) is a fuckwit but you can't get rid of him because JOC (James O'Connor) & KB (Kurtley Beale) are just as bad?
So therefore RD is incompetent and must be sacked?
BTW I read somewhere that Nucifora has been promised the job next.
So whatever happens Link stays at the Reds apparently.

Unbelievable! You still don't get it is the Gen Y way, Deans has no idea how to manage them, Link didn't have a twitter account until he realized that this is a way of communicating with the younger players, Link understands that to get the best out of the group of players he needs to make rugby fun and exciting for them, this doesn't mean that there is no rules to follow but what deans is pulling out doesn't gel with the players, boring defensive (don't want to loose by to much attitude) won't wash with the players, you only have to look at the Tahs for confirmation that it won't work. Thank god they managed to get Cheika to sort out that mess.

 

[Braveheart81]

Aside from the 3 Amigos, there have been no issues with any of the young players in the Wallabies setup.

Since the RWC incident with JOC (James O'Connor) there have been no issues with him either (apart from his injuries).

It would seem to me that you've read a book on Gen Y stereotypes and decided to apply them to the whole team. For everyone else it would seem that being part of the Wallabies is reason enough to be motivated and focussed.

 

[fatprop]

Unbelievable! You still don't get it is the Gen Y way, Deans has no idea how to manage them, Link didn't have a twitter account until he realized that this is a way of communicating with the younger players, Link understands that to get the best out of the group of players he needs to make rugby fun and exciting for them, this doesn't mean that there is no rules to follow but what deans is pulling out doesn't gel with the players, boring defensive (don't want to loose by to much attitude) won't wash with the players, you only have to look at the Tahs for confirmation that it won't work. Thank god they managed to get Cheika to sort out that mess.

bullocks, your premise of the "Gen Y way" is just an excuse to accept bad behaviour

it isn't a major issue with the All Blacks or the Boks or the Argies that requires them to pamper precious Gen Y kiddies

 

[barbarian]

Unbelievable! You still don't get it is the Gen Y way, Deans has no idea how to manage them, Link didn't have a twitter account until he realized that this is a way of communicating with the younger players, Link understands that to get the best out of the group of players he needs to make rugby fun and exciting for them, this doesn't mean that there is no rules to follow but what deans is pulling out doesn't gel with the players, boring defensive (don't want to loose by to much attitude) won't wash with the players, you only have to look at the Tahs for confirmation that it won't work. Thank god they managed to get Cheika to sort out that mess.

This is possibly the stupidest post on the thread so far. And that really is saying something.

So Link can get the best out of Quade simply because he has a twitter account?

And the Tahs aren't gelling because of their 'boring' style, obviously despite the fact that before 2011 they were one of our most successful provinces.

Come on.
.

 

[HG]

For everyone else it would seem that being part of the Wallabies is reason enough to be motivated and focussed.

And just how far has this got them in the last year?

 

[HG]

This is possibly the stupidest post on the thread so far. And that really is saying something.

So Link can get the best out of Quade simply because he has a twitter account?

And the Tahs aren't gelling because of their 'boring' style, obviously despite the fact that before 2011 they were one of our most successful provinces.

Come on.
.

Wake up and read the post! Did say that? No I said that he made rugby exciting and fun not boring and negative!
Successful provinces? I don't know how you measure success, but I would say under achievers.

 

[Braveheart81]

And just how far has this got them in the last year?

They won the 3N, came 3rd in the RWC, beat Wales 3-0. We are currently coming second in the Rugby Championship.

The Wallabies are hardly at the 40 year nadir that you suggest.

I don't think the performances would be improved if Robbie Deans started sending Michael Hooper messages on twitter.