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Quade Cooper going to NRL?

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dobduff11

Trevor Allan (34)
I don't think that will happen for a few years yet, quade will want to play in the RWC 11 and may transfer over to league after that.

Have to say if i won the RWC 11 with the wallabies and had a skill set similar to quade i would probably do it. They get injured less, opportunities for state of origin, more tries scored, more games each season, less travelling abroad, that sort of thing.

Rugby union's biggest attraction is the international stage and if that is deemed completed by a player he is likely to consider league.

I would like to see joe tomane, nathan stapleton and tupou come back to union i think they would do well here.
 
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I think it's a contract tool to get his contract up a few $$$. It's sport management 101. I can see it happening in the not to distant future, let's face it, Quade Cooper is worth a lot of $$$$$$. Let's not waste someone who we bought up.

Also if this does happen, I think the ARU will rethink there position on poaching League players. I think they should have made a bid for Greg Inglis, and when Folau fucks up at AFL I think a crack at him would also be great, Slater as well. But we'll see in about two years time.
 
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Like the article indicated, his offer from the ARU was unpalatable, i guess thats what happens when you agree to remain with a S14 team before negotiating your ARU contract. The ARU probably thought they could take advantage of it by offering him so little, this will get them rethinking.

For the sake of the ARU, the value of Cooper is immense, Quade is already the player that young kids all want to be like, they practice his step and they try to mimic his flick pass, imagine what it will be like in another 2 years? His value is worth considerably more then what he offers on the field, if he were to leave i have no doubt the Reds crowds for 2011 would be down 20% before the season even started.

Im pretty confident this is all just a ploy to get a bigger deal out of the ARU, i would hate to see him go to the Eels of all teams
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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If Cooper does well in rugby over the next two years, he will be able to write his own ticket or he can go to the NRL and may get $400,000 a year.

One of the best NRL players around looks like getting this .....

Inglis told mates of bigger deal in Brisbane
BRAD WALTER
August 13, 2010

GREG INGLIS told Melbourne officials and teammates he would receive more money in Brisbane - not less.

With Inglis's move raising questions from rival clubs about how the Broncos could afford the Test superstar under the salary cap, Brisbane chief executive Bruno Cullen claims he is not being paid as much as he was in Melbourne.

Inglis's manager, Allan Gainey, also said in yesterday's Herald that his client had taken a ''pay cut'' to join the Broncos.

Those comments have left some at the Storm stunned as they say Inglis told them he would earn more money in Brisbane.

NRL officials continued to insist yesterday that Inglis's value under the salary cap if he had stayed in Melbourne, including deals that were found to be in breach of the cap, would still be carried in the salary caps of the two clubs. The NRL also say no concessions were given to the Broncos or Storm, whose chief executive Ron Gauci confirmed earlier this week that a nominal value for Inglis would be included in the club's second-tier salary cap.

For the Storm to be able to do so means the amount is less than $55,000 and the Herald understands it is $40,000.

Inglis's contract in Melbourne was worth $450,000 but third-party payments - both legal and illegal - initially led the NRL to value him at $660,000.

After further investigation, it is understood that some payments have since been deemed to be outside the salary cap and the total value of his Storm deal was scaled down to $610,000.

Changes to the salary-cap rules enabling each club to provide cars for three players has had a further impact, but most in the game are shocked by revelations that the Broncos have included Inglis under the salary cap at $300,000.

Cullen said that a doubling of the marquee-player allowance from $150,000 to $300,000 enabled the Broncos to increase their offer to Inglis. He is also expected to earn additional income from third-party agreements but Cullen told Sky Radio's Big Sports Breakfast program that the biggest of the 20 such deals Brisbane players have with non-club sponsors was worth $25,000.

Gainey said in yesterday's Herald: ''He may end with twice the amount of money once we've been able to look into the options for other third-party deals. That's what we're banking on.''

Third-party deals with non-club sponsors are not included in the salary cap and therefore do not account in any way for the difference between Inglis's contract and the amount the Storm have in their second-tier salary cap for next season. It is understood that Inglis would have been happy to stay in Melbourne but felt he had no choice but to leave because other players - believed to be Adam Blair, Sika Manu and Dane Nielsen - would have been forced out.

The NRL rejected an offer for him and other Storm players to take pay cuts so they could stay together.

In the end, the 23-year-old Australian and Queensland centre was sick of the saga and just wanted to be paid what he was entitled to under his contract but also did not want to see teammates have to leave.

The forced departures of Inglis and prop Brett White have taken their toll on the playing group and there are concerns within the club about how they will respond against South Sydney on Sunday.

After appearing to have put the salary-cap drama behind them following the release of the News Ltd-commissioned Deloitte report and the dropping of legal action against the penalties imposed on the club by the NRL, the Storm turned in arguably their worst performance of the season against Manly last Saturday night. It is feared that the players will struggle to get themselves back up for the remaining four matches of the season.

Club insiders hope the impending re-signing of Nielsen, winger Justin O'Neill and prop Bryan Norrie, and the recruitment of other players from outside the club may provide a boost to morale.
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
Whatever happens or doesn't happen Knuckles is right in saying he is a league player through and through - and the same is true for Beale.

The Eels had a look at JOC (James O'Connor) when he was still at school and rejected him as being too small but he and the other two would thrive with only 13 defenders against them.

As for their defence problems that we think they may have: I was at the Dragons v Roosters game at the SCG on Sunday and it's quite clever how they cover up for Soward. So long as there aren't too many to hide league teams cope.

PS I saw the ceremony at the unveiling of the statue to Reg Gasnier and got to shake the great man's hand. He was in good spirits though he has obviously had a stroke and looked bad. I'll probably wash my right hand one of these days. What an imperious player he was; always finished the game with a clean jersey though, did Reg.

PPS I would mind if Cooper twitters Hayne to come over to rugby.
 

en_force_er

Geoff Shaw (53)
This doesn't make sense, at least about the $$$. The Force offered Quade a whole lot of money, if it was about money at any cost I'm sure he would have gone with them or France.

If he is considering defecting there would have to be other issues.
 

DPK

Peter Sullivan (51)
This doesn't make sense, at least about the $$$. The Force offered Quade a whole lot of money, if it was about money at any cost I'm sure he would have gone with them or France.

If he is considering defecting there would have to be other issues.

I dont think he'd go OS for the money. I think he would be much more likely to stay at home playing a different sport (and one that he has expressed an affinity for).
 

HG

Jimmy Flynn (14)
This doesn't make sense, at least about the $$$. The Force offered Quade a whole lot of money, if it was about money at any cost I'm sure he would have gone with them or France.

If he is considering defecting there would have to be other issues.

Quade never really wanted to go over to the West. It was a lot of media hype. He wanted to stay in the Reds jumper with Will and the other young players in the Reds.
If the ARU is trying to screw him then they are stupid. He will walk and go to League. It is not all about the money but at the end of the day he should be given a decent top up.
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
Hopefully he is just driving his contract price up. If we find out that the ARU top up is indeed low, and they have pissed yet another genuine union player off, I will be extremely angry.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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I think the challenge with the ARU contracts are that you make good money if you are playing tests, as match payments make a good chunk of wages. An NRL contract is guaranteed money with few bonuses due to their salary cap.
 
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Good point, that suspension would've cost Cooper $25,000, I guess.
 

AussieDominance

Trevor Allan (34)
Players get suspended more in league I would think or it seems so...

Hayne point is a waste of time his best mate is O'Connor who is staying in Union....
 

Clawhammer

Herbert Moran (7)
I'm pretty sure Benji Marshall already owns the rights to the bizarre two-foot stutter step in the NRL. Maybe we can arrange a swap.
 
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Upright

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Whatever happens or doesn't happen Knuckles is right in saying he is a league player through and through - and the same is true for Beale.

The Eels had a look at JOC (James O'Connor) when he was still at school and rejected him as being too small but he and the other two would thrive with only 13 defenders against them.

As for their defence problems that we think they may have: I was at the Dragons v Roosters game at the SCG on Sunday and it's quite clever how they cover up for Soward. So long as there aren't too many to hide league teams cope.

Lee,
Deans is using Beale in a "League" style fashion now - he is lurking up near the ball carrier looking for the opportunistic break which happened last week on one occasion (that was afer he had conceeded the try in the corner). The trade off of this is that we have no drive from the back as provided by a Matt Burke or Chris Latham hitting the line from depth and running through holes. Such an approach was a big part of why Australia did not threaten the All Blacks defence at any stage last week. I think the Blacks laugh up their sleeve every time they see KB (Kurtley Beale) included.





PS I saw the ceremony at the unveiling of the statue to Reg Gasnier and got to shake the great man's hand. He was in good spirits though he has obviously had a stroke and looked bad. I'll probably wash my right hand one of these days. What an imperious player he was; always finished the game with a clean jersey though, did Reg.

PPS I would mind if Cooper twitters Hayne to come over to rugby.
 

louie

Desmond Connor (43)
serves the ARU right if he does.
We've thrown bullshit amounts of $ at rugby league players to come to rugby when that money should have been used to develop youth.
If didn't spend money on RL players we could have saved the ARC for another year or two.
 

Aussie D

Desmond Connor (43)
Mods, maybe this thread and the Weidler one should be merged as they both cover the same topic. Alternatively maybe everyone could start posting in the Weidler thread.....
 
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