QLD GPS Rugby 2018

[terry from Townsville]

what is foolish is misrepresentation and getting facts wrong .typing in upper case too. try getting facts right and context right before you post.

 

[Cancelled Account]

^TFT
Being foolish is when your kid doesn’t make the cut and you blame selectors and impose reasons that RA gets it wrong. I did make a mistake with Phrancis which I quickly realised after I posted and looked back at by game notes. Watching too many live and reply games. My notes for the props in this years AIC and CSS teams for Queensland selections did bring me back to another couple of lads that RA should be looking at for the U18 Aus Schoolboys next year and will be eligible if the criteria has been changed. Does anyone know why John Downes didn’t play for the Barbarians this year following his selection?

 

[Blazing Saddles]

^ and I'll bet he has been causing all sorts problems for opposing teams at the breakdown with his mobility.

Saw him play a handful of games last year , plays like a genuine 7 should , no doubt his ability to be a constant "on ball" threat has more to you with his footy brain/ intuition and competiveness rather than size.

Maybe a couple of players called Mcreight and Kibble (Reds 20s) (who are both eligible for U20s next year) have had something to do with it rather than the "SIZE" excuse. Both are highly talented and have already been included in this years Under 20s Wallabies training squad. Should be interesting at the breakdown.

 

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Maybe a couple of players called Mcreight and Kibble (Reds 20s) (who are both eligible for U20s next year) have had something to do with it rather than the "SIZE" excuse. Both are highly talented and have already been included in this years Under 20s Wallabies training squad. Should be interesting at the breakdown.

That is the reason. Better talent and potential in these two players.

 

[GingerBreadCrab]

Interesting opinions from all - I think it's important to remember that there will be other opportunities for boys to prove themselves, if they're truly passionate about achieving goals in their rugby careers. Life does not end after this UK&I tour.

Zane's omission from the touring squad after a strong showing for the Barbarians would be disappointing for him, however he has another year left in a junior-elite program to prove himself. That's arguably a better position to be in than shoe-horning someone who isn't quite ready for the standard into a position where they won't enjoy themselves and burn out.

Phransis' inclusion is based upon his reputation as the strongest scrummager in QLD; technically, anatomically and statistically. He was not able to trial due to injury, and has made a huge impact in the last 2 years on the occasions he was available for Nudgee. He has been given benchmarks to meet throughout the last 6 months by selectors and has surpassed them on every occasion. Leaving an athlete with such incredible potential out of a development program, particularly when skilled Props are few and far between, would be silly.

 

[rugbyontherange]

GBC, was Moretti injured, thought he played well so wondering about his non inclusion.

 

[The Nomad]

Moretti has a contract with the Roosters for next year and made the Australian Schoolboys RL team as well as RU.

Both schoolboy teams have tours at the end of the year, guessing RU lost out to RL with Moretti.

A few years ago now players were asked to align with a code before being chosen on a major tour, then of course there was Craig Polla-Mounter who swore allegiance to RU then promptly did a backflip once the Schoolboy's tour was over. So guess no point trying to tie them down ?

 

[rugbyontherange]

Moretti has a contract with the Roosters for next year and made the Australian Schoolboys RL team as well as RU.

Both schoolboy teams have tours at the end of the year, guessing RU lost out to RL with Moretti.

A few years ago now players were asked to align with a code before being chosen on a major tour, then of course there was Craig Polla-Mounter who swore allegiance to RU then promptly did a backflip once the Schoolboy's tour was over. So guess not point trying to tie them down ?

Thanks Nomad

That is disappointing to hear, but more so for the other lads whose spot he took in the State team and the Australian Team. Those lads that would have given their left nut for an opportunity to play Rugby Union for their State and their Country.


What are we doing here folks, this process is getting more ridiculous as more information comes to light.

The program that this lad took part in, is a 'National Rugby Union Development Pathway Program", why are we spending time and effort developing players who have contracts in place for league?
Different story if a player has not made up their mind but with a contract in place - why was he selected in the first place.

Again - 2 words - transparency and integrity.

 

[Getwithme]

I call bs on the above comment. That's just such a narrow minded view.

 

[rugbyontherange]

I call bs on the above comment. That's just such a narrow minded view.

Sorry GWM,
Narrow minded that we shouldn't be giving development pathway opportunities to contracted League Players?

 

[Cancelled Account]

In the best interest of increasing rugby participation throughout Australia, RA needs to continue on its journey to open the door to league players and encourage their involvement in trials for representative teams. It is always a numbers game. Quality players will come if they feel the door is open. Get rid of the red tape.

 

[Realist]

That is the reason. Better talent and potential in these two players.

It maybe the case but all I will say if you currently look at Australia's record as compared to the Kiwi's when identifying talent I think I know who I would be taking more notice of. Also I doubt the Kiwi's would have seen much or anything of Herbert before he went over there and has obviously made a big impression in a very short period to time especially in a place that knows how to turn out flankers.

 

[Realist]

Come on. You do need size in your forwards. That is foolish to say otherwise. Your backs not so much. Size, strength, hit rate with tackles and ball running skills are are necessity in you forwards when competing against the likes of NZ. EVERY BACK NEEDS TO KNOW HOW TO TACKLE AND DEFEND.

Size dose not necessarily mean good

 

[Cancelled Account]

It maybe the case but all I will say if you currently look at Australia's record as compared to the Kiwi's when identifying talent I think I know who I would be taking more notice of. Also I doubt the Kiwi's would have seen much or anything of Herbert before he went over there and has obviously made a big impression in a very short period to time especially in a place that knows how to turn out flankers.

I must say that I was expecting more from the NZ Schoolboys side last Saturday at Ballymore. I know NZ got the W but the point difference was minimal in considering the wet game. The skill level other the the NZ 15 was not too different to the Aus team. The forwards were bigger and taller. The scrum was no contest. I would have liked to see the match played on a dry ground. I only watched it on the reply and noticed that the Aus team were fitter and the backs got back into position quicker. Just my opinion.

 

[Realist]

I must say that I was expecting more from the NZ Schoolboys side last Saturday at Ballymore. I know NZ got the W but the point difference was minimal in considering the wet game. The skill level other the the NZ 15 was not too different to the Aus team. The forwards were bigger and taller. The scrum was no contest. I would have liked to see the match played on a dry ground. I only watched it on the reply and noticed that the Aus team were fitter and the backs got back into position quicker. Just my opinion.

Yes I certainly agree with what you are saying in regards to Saturdays game and I thought the Kiwi's may have been a bit more dominate but they still came through with the win, but we are talking school boys. I think U20's is a different game again and I don't think you can always say, in a lot of cases, what you see at school boy level will be replicated again when it comes to U20's.
I get the impression in this country with our pathways system (correct me if I am wrong) it seems to more about trying to pick winners in a lot of cases then actually picking on current form.

 

[Cancelled Account]

Interesting changes for the 2019 Aus Schoolboys selection. Switch over to the Australian Schoolboys & National Championships 2018 thread for updates and discussion. Can anyone tell me who are the Queensland rep Year 12 leavers from each GPS school who will be eligible for next years selection?

 

[The Nomad]

To the best of my knowledge here's a list of boys finishing this year as 17 year olds who played QLD 1 or 2 , prior apologies if not completely accurate.....

Carter Gordon BBC
Zac Crothers Churchie
Matt Engelbrecht NC
Josh Flook NC
Cayle Manu NC
Zeph Tuinona BSHS
Francis Pona BSHS
Will Roach GT
Will Kirk GT
Dan Condon GT

Throw in AIC boys

Brad Kuhn SPC
John Downes MCA
Ben Gerraghty MCA
Sam Finocchiaro Iona
Bruce Tevaga Padua

Could be more ?

 

[Cancelled Account]

Well that is certainly going to change the Aus team strength next year. Essentially providing an equal balance with the NSW position placements in the team and the strength against NZ. Curious regarding TSS boys, Spencer, Zane and Tom??
I do know that Carter (Reds) and Zeph (Brumbies) have contracts, and question whether they will be released for a U18 Aus team. I also heard Spencer was in the U20 Red’s academy. In assuming that these boys are eligible and able to be selected, then the upcoming Year 12 boys will need to prove themselves early in the trials to have any chance.

 

[The Nomad]

^ Zane still has a year to go at school, only year 11 currently, still can't believe he won't be on the plane to the UK . Both Tom and Spencer are 18 this year.

It will be very interesting how selection of 18 year olds will be handled next year. First year this year with 3 academy boys into the touring squad to UK. Might be there to cover certain positions and depth. The NSW fella is a line out gun and we definitely struggled there against NZ Schools, the lad from WA is a very good flanker and both first choice flankers from this current squad ended up ruled out due to injury. Would imagine if you all of a sudden dropped a large number into the squad there would be some serious noise.

 

[Oracle83]

Anyone know the detail on Jangala Bennet signing with Cronulla shark ?? Ie when he finishes school or next year??