QLD GPS Rugby 2018
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I saw Gideon play last year and then again for NZ schools this year, in the space of a year his game and his confidence has grown a whole heap... so the short answer to your question is no it wouldn't have.
His spatial awareness and the sharpness of his passing game stand out as improvements for me as well as his confidence under the high ball in the air and support play...he went from being not quite a standout in Qld last year to a key member of the NZ schools team, we must be looking at different things here or things differently
Rumour mill at this time of year is saying a few more boys with NZ connections looking at the move through NZ Schools making approaches, again they may not be standouts but with the right development could be something special
BTW - If you watched NZ Schools V Aust Schools, how good was that NZ fullback, he must of been the smallest bloke on the field but he had serious game - I heard someone in the ground say in NZ if you are good enough your are big enough and if he was in Australia the boy would not even be looked at or he would've be converted to halfback because of his height seemed like this person might know a thing or two about Aust rugby judging by the Kit he was wearing apparently from schoolboys upward each rugby position have a height,wieght template that give selectors a guide as to what they should be looking for
Holy Sh*t is right
Plenty of talent in this group and in the 15s both were virtually untouchable all tournament - Qld very strong in these age groups
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Desmond Connor (43)
UK TOUR ANNOUNCED
AUSTRALIAN SCHOOLS AND U18S ALPHABETICAL NAME SURNAME SCHOOL TEAM
Daniel Ala St Augustine’s College NSW 2
Angus Bell Newington College NSW 1
Angus Bell St Ignatius’ College NSW 2
John Connolly The Kings School NSW 1
Vincent Creagh St Joseph’s College, Hunters Hill NSW 2
Max Douglas NSW Gen Blue Academy
Reno Gerrard The Southport School
Carter Gordon Brisbane Boys College QLD 1
Will Harris The Scot’s College NSW 1
Zane Hogan St Edmund’s College ACT
Lachlan Ilias Trinity Grammar School NSW 1
Spencer Jeans The Southport School QLD 1
Brendan Jimenez St Edmund’s College ACT
Tyrell Kopua The Southport School QLD 1
Thomas Lambert Trinity Grammar School NSW 1
Viliami Lea Reds Academy
Reesjan Pasitoa St Joseph’s College, Nudgee QLD 1
Billy Pollard Barker College NSW 1
Luke Reimer Barker College NSW 1
Seb Strang The Scot’s College NSW 1
Phrancis Sula-Siaosi St Joseph’s College, Nudgee QLD 1
Bailey Tautau St Joseph’s College, Nudgee QLD 1
Carlos Tizzano WA Future Force Academy
Tom van der Schyff The Southport School QLD 1
Harry Vella St Joseph’s College, Nudgee QLD 1
Joey Walton Wadalba HS NSW 1
Jeremy Williams The Scot’s College NSW 1
https://www.schoolsrugby.com.au/2018/news/uk-tour-squad-announced/
Great news to see Phrancis from our Nudgee First XV included in the team for the tour. A solid prop will bring great strength to the team. I thought the Aus team played well in consideration of the wet conditions which the NZ players are used to. Gordon’s kicking was spot on. Jeans distribution was spot on. Tautau was a great impact. Pity we didn’t see the other Nudge boys on for more than 10 mins. Good job Lads.
AUSTRALIAN SCHOOLS AND U18S ALPHABETICAL NAME SURNAME SCHOOL TEAM
Daniel Ala St Augustine’s College NSW 2
Angus Bell Newington College NSW 1
Angus Bell St Ignatius’ College NSW 2
John Connolly The Kings School NSW 1
Vincent Creagh St Joseph’s College, Hunters Hill NSW 2
Max Douglas NSW Gen Blue Academy
Reno Gerrard The Southport School
Carter Gordon Brisbane Boys College QLD 1
Will Harris The Scot’s College NSW 1
Zane Hogan St Edmund’s College ACT
Lachlan Ilias Trinity Grammar School NSW 1
Spencer Jeans The Southport School QLD 1
Brendan Jimenez St Edmund’s College ACT
Tyrell Kopua The Southport School QLD 1
Thomas Lambert Trinity Grammar School NSW 1
Viliami Lea Reds Academy
Reesjan Pasitoa St Joseph’s College, Nudgee QLD 1
Billy Pollard Barker College NSW 1
Luke Reimer Barker College NSW 1
Seb Strang The Scot’s College NSW 1
Phrancis Sula-Siaosi St Joseph’s College, Nudgee QLD 1
Bailey Tautau St Joseph’s College, Nudgee QLD 1
Carlos Tizzano WA Future Force Academy
Tom van der Schyff The Southport School QLD 1
Harry Vella St Joseph’s College, Nudgee QLD 1
Joey Walton Wadalba HS NSW 1
Jeremy Williams The Scot’s College NSW 1
https://www.schoolsrugby.com.au/2018/news/uk-tour-squad-announced/
Great news to see Phrancis from our Nudgee First XV included in the team for the tour. A solid prop will bring great strength to the team. I thought the Aus team played well in consideration of the wet conditions which the NZ players are used to. Gordon’s kicking was spot on. Jeans distribution was spot on. Tautau was a great impact. Pity we didn’t see the other Nudge boys on for more than 10 mins. Good job Lads.
The Nomad
Bob Davidson (42)
Pinetree,
Agree totally with your assessment of the NZ #15, good enough should equal big ( & old ) enough this side of the ditch.
We are way too focused on size here , players been given weight goals by coaches in the Aussie Schools system and using the excuse of not being big enough for non selection is ridiculous . Would love the feed back to young players especially to be more skill set based and what is needed for improvement , rather than size.
Biggest doesn't always mean best.
Agree totally with your assessment of the NZ #15, good enough should equal big ( & old ) enough this side of the ditch.
We are way too focused on size here , players been given weight goals by coaches in the Aussie Schools system and using the excuse of not being big enough for non selection is ridiculous . Would love the feed back to young players especially to be more skill set based and what is needed for improvement , rather than size.
Biggest doesn't always mean best.
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Desmond Connor (43)
Best man on the field.
Realist
Chris McKivat (8)
Interesting enough Aussie School Boy flanker Herbert from Downlands Toowoomba, was told by the Reds Under 20's squad that he was not big enough, so he jumped on the plane headed for NZ and is now been selected for the All Black U20's, we really do have some issues in this country.
The Nomad
Bob Davidson (42)
^ and I'll bet he has been causing all sorts problems for opposing teams at the breakdown with his mobility.
Saw him play a handful of games last year , plays like a genuine 7 should , no doubt his ability to be a constant "on ball" threat has more to you with his footy brain/ intuition and competiveness rather than size.
Saw him play a handful of games last year , plays like a genuine 7 should , no doubt his ability to be a constant "on ball" threat has more to you with his footy brain/ intuition and competiveness rather than size.
Oracle83
Phil Hardcastle (33)
So if our Reds talent and high performance professionals make such critical errors, how do they retain their jobs???
Oracle83
Phil Hardcastle (33)
Where’s Nonggor??!
rugbyontherange
Frank Nicholson (4)
It seems Nonggor was pushed out to make room for Phrancis (who was only selected in the poorly performing QLD II side and based on his performance at Nationals in July, was not selected for Aust or BaBa's side).
Wondering if any of the players (i.e. Nonggor,) were spoken to as to why they were booted out of the side after the NZ and Tonga games, by players who finished Year 12 last year and are now in Developing Academies, or players who were not deemed good enough after the Schoolboy selection process took place.
This whole thing is not making any sense. Where is the transparency in the selection process.
Wondering if any of the players (i.e. Nonggor,) were spoken to as to why they were booted out of the side after the NZ and Tonga games, by players who finished Year 12 last year and are now in Developing Academies, or players who were not deemed good enough after the Schoolboy selection process took place.
This whole thing is not making any sense. Where is the transparency in the selection process.
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Desmond Connor (43)
Nonggorr should be in. The selection reasoning of the addition players makes no sense. We are missing something.
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Desmond Connor (43)
Phrancis is a talented player who didn’t perform at his best at Riverview. On the other hand there were also some obvious standouts who didn’t have the best gps season due to injury or poor team positioning. It is the job of the selectors to assess each potential candidate on their current ability, potential ability and the positional overall rating.
TheKillaMan
Frank Row (1)
Phrancis did not play down in Sydney for Nationals, he was injured and unavailable for selection.
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Desmond Connor (43)
You are right and obviously wasn’t a standout.
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Desmond Connor (43)
It should not matter. If Aus Rugby sees talent then give these players the opportunity to be selected. Aus Rugby needs to draw talent from wherever they can before league clubs get in first.
terry from Townsville
Allen Oxlade (6)
the Herbert thing is NZ rugby's gain and the aussies loss. I hope he performs so strongly that it sends a message to the aussies to Kohan and get stuffed
terry from Townsville
Allen Oxlade (6)
ryan crotty - 5'11 and 96kg
anton lienert brown - 6'1 and 96kg
ardie savea - 6'2 and 95kg
damian McKenzie - 5'9 and 81kg
sam cane - 6'2 and 103kg
mike todd 6'1 and 100kg
midfielders and all black 7's since Sir Richie's retirement . obviously all consistently in the collision . McKenzie also in there as a good example
NZ focuses on what you do not what you look like. the aussies ? obviously different and probably more league influenced in what they do more than what they realise
anton lienert brown - 6'1 and 96kg
ardie savea - 6'2 and 95kg
damian McKenzie - 5'9 and 81kg
sam cane - 6'2 and 103kg
mike todd 6'1 and 100kg
midfielders and all black 7's since Sir Richie's retirement . obviously all consistently in the collision . McKenzie also in there as a good example
NZ focuses on what you do not what you look like. the aussies ? obviously different and probably more league influenced in what they do more than what they realise
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Desmond Connor (43)
Come on. You do need size in your forwards. That is foolish to say otherwise. Your backs not so much. Size, strength, hit rate with tackles and ball running skills are are necessity in you forwards when competing against the likes of NZ. EVERY BACK NEEDS TO KNOW HOW TO TACKLE AND DEFEND.