QLD GPS Rugby 2018

[Garry Owens]

Yes fair enough and good points

Big things should probably be expected out of BSHS and GT next year with seemingly ( at least ) 2 x strong options to play 10 - good to have choice and depth

 

[Pinetree]

Yes fair enough and good points

Big things should probably be expected out of BSHS and GT next year with seemingly ( at least ) 2 x strong options to play 10 - good to have choice and depth

I guess it all depends what the mad scientist is mixing up next year playing boys out of position probably didn't work too well this year

 

[DarkSide]

I guess it all depends what the mad scientist is mixing up next year playing boys out of position probably didn't work too well this year

Just speaking in generalities here because this sort of stuff gets said a lot, and not just here. Having coached schoolboy rugby in NZ, and being on that side of the fence. Selecting a schoolboy team isn’t easy because you’re picking from a fixed pool of players. it’s very common to play kids “out of position” as a result. No doubt the terrace 10 is there because that was the best fit. I’ve done it myself, selecting someone left field because the boy who wanted the position didn’t follow the game plan, or couldn’t defend properly, or missed a skill that was fundamental to playing to the strengths of the boys in the team. We can sit here and say playing boys out of position didn’t work. But I’d wager $50 if we sat in those selection meetings we’d probabpy have agreed with the reasons behind the choices.

 

[TheKing]

Isn’t the NC 10 already 100kg+? How much more does he need to grow. Does height for a fly half really matter?

183 cm, 94 kg, 16 years old.

Coincidentally, identical height and weight to Jono Lance

 

[Wombat70]

Jesse Gray of TSS has been bounced in and out of the firsts at 12 however his appearances at 10 in the seconds would indicate room for development (at 10).

 

[Garry Owens]

Yeah I would have thought that would be the logical move for this talented young bloke - I just wasn’t sure as a TSS bloke I know who has a good read on things ( internally ) was 50/50 on that possibility

I thought he had played a bit at 10 in juniors before he arrived at TSS ?

 

[TheKing]

10 hardest working forwards in GPS Rugby

Was having a look through the stats earlier this evening and had what I thought was a fun idea.

Plug in the stats of every starter in the comp into the World Sevens Series ‘DHL Performance Tracker’ model, which adds together a player’s carries, tackles, offloads and linebreak stats to come up with a figure rating their workrate.

In the end I got bored with it and stopped once I’d finished the forwards.

Here are the GPS Rugby’s 10 hardest working forwards through weeks 1-7.

I found it very interesting that none of the Nudgee, BBC and Southport forward packs cracked the top of the list.

1. Emile Tuimavave, BGS #3 — 24.7 per game.
2. Will MacPherson, ACGS #6 — 23.5 pg
3. Lance Bagon, IGS #8 — 23.0
4. Tyrone Metusela-Suapaia, GT #8 — 21.5
5. Zeph Tuinona, BSHS #4 — 20.67
6. Nesta Mahina, BSHS #2 — 20.16
7. Hudson Mulcahy, GT #2 — 19.80
8. Chizzy Vaka, BSHS #7 — 19.5
9. Alex Davies, BGS #1 — 19.14
10. Fred Fewtrell, ACGS #4 — 18.5

PS. Please note that the tracker doesn’t take into account tries and try assists, tackle busts, turnovers won, ruck involvements etc. It is just a basic look.

 

[Garry Owens]

^Interesting that all but 2 are on bottom 3 teams

Also interesting that guys like Bailey Tautau and Tom VDS , Nongorr , Kopua and Gerrard were not in the Top 10

In Tautau’s case he had 24 carries on his own on the weekend and has on his own carried more than the entire opposing forward pack

But as is pointed out there is a bunch of key indicators missing - especially defensiive data and AR and DR contestss . This type of stuff as a starting point tells you who’s working and at the nerve centre of having big impact on team wins

 

[DarkSide]

^Interesting that all but 2 are on bottom

It’s actually pretty common when treating stats in this way. In teams like NC, TSS, etc, every forward has a high work rate and so it’s tough for an individual to accrue high individual stats.

 

[Garry Owens]

The King’s post inspires thoughts about a GPS team of the season as the season is winding down

1. Tyrell Kopua ( TSS )
2. Hudson Mulcahy ( GT )
3. Emile Tuimavave ( BGS )
4. Tom Van Der Schyff ( TSS )
5. Fred Fewtrell ( ACGS )
6. Bailey Tautau ( NC )
7. Connor McKinlay ( ACGS )
8. Reno Gerrard ( TSS )
9. Spencer Jeans ( TSS )
10. Campbell Parata ( TSS )
11. Tresman Banjo ( NC )
12. Reesjan Pasiota ( NC )
13. Josh Flook ( NC )
14. Jangala Bennett ( NC )
15. Wayne Bilston ( ACGS )

 

[BraveandGame]

The King’s post inspires thoughts about a GPS team of the season as the season is winding down

1. Tyrell Kopua ( TSS )
2. Hudson Mulcahy ( GT )
3. Emile Tuimavave ( BGS )
4. Tom Van Der Schyff ( TSS )
5. Fred Fewtrell ( ACGS )
6. Bailey Tautau ( NC )
7. Connor McKinlay ( ACGS )
8. Reno Gerrard ( TSS )
9. Spencer Jeans ( TSS )
10. Campbell Parata ( TSS )
11. Tresman Banjo ( NC )
12. Reesjan Pasiota ( NC )
13. Josh Flook ( NC )
14. Jangala Bennett ( NC )
15. Wayne Bilston ( ACGS )

Hard to argue too much and hard to believe no BBC boys given people thought they were going to compete with NC TSS this year.

I guess if there was an offensive unit Bowyer would walk (at great pace) into the 15, but he has some clear issues with his game. Maybe one of the wingers but the NC duo probably do offer more all round. Carter has been hot and very cold and like Bowyer would walk into a specialist (defensive) unit but lacks the all round game of the other two.

For mine Reesjan has been the better 10, but I agree you take them both with no 12 playing better than Parata.

I would have never thought you could name a team like this without Roach at 7 - GT sure are a rabble this season something very wrong at Tennyson - Mulcahy the clear shinning light.

 

[Taipan]

Interesting article in The Chronicle, local newspaper.

Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk

 

[Garry Owens]

To complete the team of the season ( at 25 ) my bench would be :

16. Tevita Katuu ( NC )
17. Harry Vella ( NC )
18. JP Tominiko ( ACGS )
19. Will Macpherson ( ACGS )
20. Oscar Skerman ( BGS)
21. Luc Lyndon ( TSS )
22. Carter Gordon ( BBC )
23. Dennis Waight ( BGS )
24. Ronan Kapi ( TSS )
25. Dan Atkinson ( NC )

 

[Getwithme]

I would've had Will Roach at 7 and the star 10/12 from BGS. How good is Wayne Bilston? Saw him in the ACGS v GT game and was a standout.

 

[TheKing]

Having personally watched just about every game, and discussed at length with two more people who have watched every single game, it will be very tough to knock anybody out of this 23.

There will be opportunities for boys off this bench to force themselves into the starting team, but it's just about set in stone me-thinks. Clear standouts at every position

1. Tyrell Kopua -The Southport School
2. Hudson Mulcahy - Gregory Terrace
3. Zane Nonggor - The Southport School
4. Will MacPherson - Churchie
5. Tom van der Schyff - The Southport School
6. Tyrone Metusela-Suapaia - Gregory Terrace
7. Will Roach - Gregory Terrace
8. Reno Gerrard - The Southport School
9. Spencer Jeans - The Southport School
10. Campbell Parata - The Southport School
11. Glen Vaihu - Gregory Terrace
12. Daejarn Asi - Brisbane Grammar School
13. Jack Howarth - Brisbane Boys’ College
14. Jangala Bennett - Nudgee College
15. Jack Bowyer-Bowen - Brisbane Boys’ College

16. Nesta Mahina - State High
17. Harry Vella - Nudgee College
18. Emile Tuimavave - Brisbane Grammar School
19. Zeph Tuinona - State High
20. Bailey Tautau - Nudgee College
21. Aaron Prosser - Churchie
22. Reesjan Pasitoa - Nudgee College
23. Ronan Kapi - The Southport School

And looking at the Queensland Schoolboys selections from this year, you've got to say they did a great job selecting all bar one of the form players in their rep sides.

Besides the six who were unavailabe - Hudson Mulcahy and Reno Gerrard through injury, and others who had already signed elsewhere Parata (Crusaders), Asi (Cowboys), Howarth (Storm), Metusela-Suapaia (Roosters) - only Churchie scrumhalf Aaron Prosser missed out, and even then, there's an asterisk because Kalani Thomas was injured most of the year. We'll never know what he could have been in 2018 with more games under the belt.

 

[Garry Owens]

I thought Aaron Prosser played Combined States at Nationals

Be a great game this weekend between Churchie and Nudgee

Churchie 8 and 10 have also had a very good years - I just think Churchie are 1 or 2 impact backs short of being able to take it to Nudgee

I am expecting a tight game though

Well done to Churchie on being a real surprise packet this year - it's been good to watch them play and for a number of their guys to really step up and compete / better some of the "name" players

 

[TheKing]

I thought Aaron Prosser played Combined States at Nationals

You're 100% correct, he did too.

Be a great game this weekend between Churchie and Nudgee

Churchie 8 and 10 have also had a very good years - I just think Churchie are 1 or 2 impact backs short of being able to take it to Nudgee

I am expecting a tight game though

Well done to Churchie on being a real surprise packet this year - it's been good to watch them play and for a number of their guys to really step up and compete / better some of the "name" players

Absolutely, MacPherson, Fewtrell, Ogilvie were awesome all year long. Then Zac Crothers went down, and replacement Aidan King set the single game tackling record with 22 the following week.

One wonders how Churchie would have fared if they could keep Tominiko, Crothers and Jack Edwards on the park for longer. With those guys and Dre Brown in the team Churchie might have been in with a real chance, but I don't see it.

This game is a BBC v NC 2.0 for me. We'll be all pumped to watch a great game but Nudgee will end up too strong.

I hear Ethan Robbins and Cayle Manu were both on the bench last week, so they should be in line to start. Nudgee will officially be back to full strength

 

[Garry Owens]

Yeah - good call - especially on Drekown Brown . He was the guy that could have made a BIG difference for Churchie this year at 12 . An unfortunate neck injury has finished his contact sporting days , however , has stayed at the school and around the team as their student manager from what I understand . Great stuff.

Younger brother , Andrew , doing very well at Nudgee in the 16A's and who I expect will be well in the mix in Nudgee's 2019 and 2020 teams

Terrific young blokes

 

[Dark Shark]

The King’s post inspires thoughts about a GPS team of the season as the season is winding down

1. Tyrell Kopua ( TSS )
2. Hudson Mulcahy ( GT )
3. Emile Tuimavave ( BGS )
4. Tom Van Der Schyff ( TSS )
5. Fred Fewtrell ( ACGS )
6. Bailey Tautau ( NC )
7. Connor McKinlay ( ACGS )
8. Reno Gerrard ( TSS )
9. Spencer Jeans ( TSS )
10. Campbell Parata ( TSS )
11. Tresman Banjo ( NC )
12. Reesjan Pasiota ( NC )
13. Josh Flook ( NC )
14. Jangala Bennett ( NC )
15. Wayne Bilston ( ACGS )

I quite like this team over TheKing’s. Everyone has their own opinions. Only strong feeling on any change would be Jack Howarth BBC at 13

 

[BraveandGame]

I quite like this team over TheKing’s. Everyone has their own opinions. Only strong feeling on any change would be Jack Horwath BBC at 13

I like this team to, King has too many on reputation over performance for mine - I get the Howarth thing but Flook easily got the points in the head to head.

You just can't leave Reesjan out has to be 10 or 12 no ifs or buts.