QLD GPS Rugby 2016

[The sage]

If it's a genuine question then the answer is a long one. They are extremely professional and don't accept anything below their very high standards. They base a lot of what they do on a whole of country approach sharing a lot of information amongst all their coaches and players. what you see in a game is the product of hundreds of hours and often years of work developing players and support systems. They are as far from the old fashioned way of playing rugby as you could get. They plan almost every detail for months before every game and rarely run the same thing twice. I've seen them flag a wallaby player was being weak on the left foot and had forward runners switch to his inside shoulder to exploit it, I've seen them measure their own players fitness down to the tiniest detail and pull them each week exactly when they hit the threshold. The organisation and planning is unebelievable.

The sharing of information etc that you talk about whilst important, imo, is secondary to how you play in the game.

Going back to my point "they keep the ball up". That is they have superior fitness, ball skills and in general play use pressure to force mistakes. They don't make passes unless 1) they have the clear ability to do so & 2) unless the recipient is in a good position to take that pass. They keep the movement going forward by keeping the ball up, not putting it in the risk zone of a ruck, where superior break down specialists can cause an eventual turn-over. By being of superior fitness the pressure of moving the ball forward, keeping it up, makes holes in the defence or causes illegal play and therefore a penalty.

Whilst rugby has changed over the years, with rules, speed and the like, you may be surprise that the great teams over time have the same attributes as the ab's have at the moment. And superior fitness, skills and keeping the ball moving or up is probably the key attributes over time.


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[The sage]

I agree, All played very well, Nasser very unlucky to miss out on Australian Schoolboys selection

Wow that's a long bow to draw considering the scrum was under pressure for most of the day.

For mine the #14 was motm, closely follow by the 7,8 & 6. It was the control of the breakdown and improvement in the set piece in the second half that allowed field position to build pressure on NC.


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[DarkSide]

The sharing of information etc that you talk about whilst important, imo, is secondary to how you play in the game.

Going back to my point "they keep the ball up". That is they have superior fitness, ball skills and in general play use pressure to force mistakes. They don't make passes unless 1) they have the clear ability to do so & 2) unless the recipient is in a good position to take that pass. They keep the movement going forward by keeping the ball up, not putting it in the risk zone of a ruck, where superior break down specialists can cause an eventual turn-over. By being of superior fitness the pressure of moving the ball forward, keeping it up, makes holes in the defence or causes illegal play and therefore a penalty.

Whilst rugby has changed over the years, with rules, speed and the like, you may be surprise that the great teams over time have the same attributes as the ab's have at the moment. And superior fitness, skills and keeping the ball moving or up is probably the key attributes over time.


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I actually rank the sharing of info as the #1. By the time a coach or players gets to the All Blacks, or Super Rugby he already knows what he needs to. It then comes down to the execution. NZRU are at pains to get eveyone on the same page. One of the big surprises to me coming to Aus is that coaches barely talk to each other! There's nothing from the ARU really, nothing more than token handouts. If a team does well the coach and staff keep all their "secrets" close or their chest. In NZ it's the opposite, everyone tells and everyone listens.

 

[Teh Other Dave]

... use pressure to force mistakes. They don't make passes unless 1) they have the clear ability to do so & 2) unless the recipient is in a good position to take that pass. They keep the movement going forward by keeping the ball up, not putting it in the risk zone of a ruck, where superior break down specialists can cause an eventual turn-over. By being of superior fitness the pressure of moving the ball forward, keeping it up, makes holes in the defence or causes illegal play and therefore a penalty.

This. With an emphasis on disciplined defence and not pushing passes. It's the stuff of junior coaching. Keep realigning (fitness!), keep your shape in defence, and keep the opponent's line honest when in attack. Wait for the gaps and overlaps open up, or for the opposition cough the pill up, and then let your smooth, flat passes shine.

I actually rank the sharing of info as the #1. By the time a coach or players gets to the All Blacks, or Super Rugby he already knows what he needs to. It then comes down to the execution. NZRU are at pains to get eveyone on the same page. One of the big surprises to me coming to Aus is that coaches barely talk to each other! There's nothing from the ARU really, nothing more than token handouts. If a team does well the coach and staff keep all their "secrets" close or their chest. In NZ it's the opposite, everyone tells and everyone listens.

Things used to be different. Australia used to have an 'Australian way', and at one point there were attempts to give some overriding themes. It's been said ad nauseum on GAGR, but we have given far too much input back to the provinces, which works fine when you have a Cheika, White, or McKenzie running the show, but we are now reaping what we spent the past two seasons sowing in the fields of Super Rugby.

 

[Outside in]

Ist XV - State High
2nd XV - TSS
16A - TSS
15A - NC
14A - State High
13A - IGS
12A - State High
11A - BBC

Great cross section of schools, interestingly Churchie had a poor year other than the 16A's where they finished a close second. Looking at the results of of TSS, makes interesting reading. Poor results from U11-U14, clearly one of the strongest U15 up, their recruitment policy clearly targets the older years with strong results although they haven't been able to achieve the ultimate prize in a number of years, albiet very close.

If the said guns go to BBC that we are yet to see from Lennox Head, Ballina & Lismore that once would head south to Sydney after grade 10 then they may challenge NC. Are they the boys that would normally lob at TSS. NC must be even money next year on exposed form.

 

[Outside in]

I agree, All played very well, Nasser very unlucky to miss out on Australian Schoolboys selection

I don't think so, I reckon Campbell got him today.

 

[Outside in]

Looks like fun, can I play??

1 GORMAN (BSHS)
2. FAESSLER (TGS)
3 FARRELL (BBC)
4. WILTSHIRE (TGS)
5. JEFFRIES (NC)
6. TWEEDY (GT)
7 MCREIGHT (BGS)
8 WILSON (GT)
9. TAFA (BSHS)
10. LUCAS (GT)
11. EADIE (GT)
12. LOLESIO (TSS)
13. IKIATAU (BBC)
14. MALALA (NC)
15. TAULAGI (BSHS)
16. NASSER (GT)
17. SCHOUPP (NC)
18. SHERIDAN (IGS)
19 MAVOA (TSS)
20. TARABAY (ACGS)
21. STAGHORN (ACGS)
22. MAHINA (BSHS)
23. TUPOU (NC)

Back row if I was picking one - Tweedy / Fenner / Sheridan ..... They can go on. State High #9, lengths ahead of his peers. Downlands boy just bumps the GT fella at 10 for me.

 

[bear]

Ist XV - State High
2nd XV - TSS
16A - TSS
15A - NC
14A - State High
13A - IGS
12A - State High
11A - BBC

Great cross section of schools, interestingly Churchie had a poor year other than the 16A's where they finished a close second. Looking at the results of of TSS, makes interesting reading. Poor results from U11-U14, clearly one of the strongest U15 up, their recruitment policy clearly targets the older years with strong results although they haven't been able to achieve the ultimate prize in a number of years, albiet very close.

Why include the under 11's? Doesn't high school/ GPS start at under 12 age level. I know state high doesn't have any under 11 players as they are only a high school and start at grade 7. Isn't the under 11 age group playing again AIC school aswell?


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[Realdeal]

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Ist XV - State High
2nd XV - TSS
16A - TSS
15A - NC
14A - State High
13A - IGS
12A - State High

So which schools had successful seasons..

Been along time since ive seem Bshs winning A's...Also a long time since ive seen Nudgee not figure alot ... think three years ago they won nearly all the ages... we here at BBC; I THINK WE ARE BUILDING ... lol go the u11's.

 

[Hands Off Seven!]

Why include the under 11's? Doesn't high school/ GPS start at under 12 age level. I know state high doesn't have any under 11 players as they are only a high school and start at grade 7. Isn't the under 11 age group playing again AIC school aswell?


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GPS comp is U11 through to Opens. All GPS schools (except State High) compete in U11's nothing to do with AIC.

 

[Legend of the 80's]

So the 2016 GPS Rugby Season is at an end.

So here is how the "Whole of School" premiership would look:
1. GT - 175.5
2. NC - 175.0
3. BBC - 162.0
4. TGS - 143.5
5. TSS - 125.5
6. BSHS - 118.5
7. IGS - 115.0
8. ACGS - 96.5
9. BGS - 56.5


I think this is a pretty fair summary of the GPS rugby. GT and NC always a strong thanks to their depth with GT just getting over their cross town brothers thanks to the 1stXV yesterday. BBC continue to build their depth across all ages and will soon challenge the title of number one rugby school. TSS and TGS are always a threat especially at home while State High and IGS suffer from a lack of depth, while Churchie and BGS are working on rebuilding that depth.

Great season and congratulations to al the boys across their age groups and grades, well done all the best in 2017. And maybe the GPS Heads will look at a Whole of School Premiership to reward all the boys not just the 1st XV as they do in rowing.

 

[Chazz]

I like your summary LEGENDS OF THE 80,
BSHS suffers from lack of depth??
They beat both GT and Nudgee,
CHAMPIONS mate in my eyes.
Premiers 2016!!!!!


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[TheKing]

Great season and congratulations to al the boys across their age groups and grades, well done all the best in 2017. And maybe the GPS Heads will look at a Whole of School Premiership to reward all the boys not just the 1st XV as they do in rowing.

A lot of work went in to doing up these numbers, so thank you for sticking with it Legend!

Made for interesting reading about the state of GPS Rugby.

Can't recall such a good season for years and THANK YOU to Double Take live for their fabulous TV coverage.

If you'd like to see it back next year, make sure you tell the relevant staff at your schools that this is something you want to see continued.

As I understand it the ball is currently in the school's court about whether the broadcast and live streaming is back next year.

 

[Legend of the 80's]

I like your summary LEGENDS OF THE 80,

BSHS suffers from lack of depth??

They beat both GT and Nudgee,

CHAMPIONS mate in my eyes.

Premiers 2016!!!!!





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Chazz I take nothing away from State High's 1stXV and their Premiership - my table was whole school A-C in Opens to U13 and U12A's. High doesn't appear to be as competitive across the board.

 

[TheKing]

BBC and GT both snapped 12-year losing streaks against Nudgee in 2016

 

[Oldschool]

So the 2016 GPS Rugby Season is at an end.

So here is how the "Whole of School" premiership would look:
1. GT - 175.5
2. NC - 175.0
3. BBC - 162.0
4. TGS - 143.5
5. TSS - 125.5
6. BSHS - 118.5
7. IGS - 115.0
8. ACGS - 96.5
9. BGS - 56.5


I think this is a pretty fair summary of the GPS rugby. GT and NC always a strong thanks to their depth with GT just getting over their cross town brothers thanks to the 1stXV yesterday. BBC continue to build their depth across all ages and will soon challenge the title of number one rugby school. TSS and TGS are always a threat especially at home while State High and IGS suffer from a lack of depth, while Churchie and BGS are working on rebuilding that depth.

Great season and congratulations to al the boys across their age groups and grades, well done all the best in 2017. And maybe the GPS Heads will look at a Whole of School Premiership to reward all the boys not just the 1st XV as they do in rowing.

Nudgee on the day at Tennyson had 23 wins, 11 losses and 2 draws to retain the St Joseph's cup.

 

[Blue & white]

A lot to like about NC results yesterday.Joe Small and quite a few others back next along with premiership winning 16A and 15A .i hope Jeffries is back.
The 15A s came from no where to go undefeated this year beating a stAr studded BBC team after full time .I like the look of the new blonde headed prop in the 15As for next year. Smokey for 1st xv. not sure where he is from .
my nephew was out at IGS yesterday and his team had a good win in the 16As as did 15As . he reckons BBC firsts played like a rabble with the 6 out from last week joined this week by the captain at 10 and leading tryscorer 14 .
8 boys out from your number 1 team is not a right? something wrong with training or rehab because it seems a consistant theme there for last 3 years.
Congrats to GT coaches of firsts- a very very well drilled team . And congrats to BSHS . I have never seen a TSS scrum go backwards like that.

 

[Realdeal]

Chazz I take nothing away from State High's 1stXV and their Premiership - my table was whole school A-C in Opens to U13 and U12A's. High doesn't appear to be as competitive across the board.

I think the concept is good ... but to say state high is not competitive is...well ... im not going to say ... one question is it about participation or results ... if it is results then maybe to B's is fair ... if participation then go all thw way to e's ... not too many school care about C's even some about B's ... the coaches the players dont care and if the schools are playing each other twice in the 13C's or even another schools 13D's then does it really count ... its not a comp. Its a sup draw..And im at BBC so im not being bias

 

[frotter]

Hello all, what A season of Rugby, great shout out to Double take for great job and the commentary, was great for extended family all around the world to be able to watch.

I was at Igs and BBC game yesterday and was horrified at behaviour of bbc. I know you are all going to boo hoo me and think I am just picking on BBC, but just let me show these points and you make your own mind up.

Remember I am just a punter but a punter that believes sport is a great way to shape and influence young men as they prepare for the real world.

1/ BBC boys injured asked to move behind ropes were rude and belligerent to Ipswich Staff
2/ One of Coaching staff stood behind the posts swinging umbrellas as kicker was taking penaltys, did it twice
3/ Boys in vehicles in areas they should not have being doing burnouts on the grass as they left ripping up grass. BBC teacher chased after them and they ignored the teacher. Mates of the driver cheering on, this all visible from the main seating area, and marks left are significant. I am sure grounds men will be upset.
4/ Igs boys sitting for 15 minutes at afternoon tea, waiting for BBC boys who lingered up in their own time
5/ bbc boys turn up to afternoon tea with no shirts on, just blazer over the top of bare upper body.
6/ What makes me the most upset was seeing IGS mums preparing great food, hot food, having to wait around whilst bbc boys took their time and food went cold. Was very disrespectfull.
7/ Even BBC parents were urging their boys to hurry up to no avail

I know a lot of you young men will struggle to understand this, But Can I tell you that manners and respect for an invitation to someone's house or fields is not a lot to ask. I really hope BBC hierechy understand this and Rectifiy.

 

[Realdeal]

How many come back from each first xv this year at all the schools