Pacific Rugby Cup
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Steve Williams (59)
Guys, I have written a preview of today's final in Sydney that's now on the front page of the blog:
Includes starting team line-ups and a bit of a summary of the pool results.
Good luck to all four sides playing in the PRC matches this arvo at TG Millner Field.
Includes starting team line-ups and a bit of a summary of the pool results.
Good luck to all four sides playing in the PRC matches this arvo at TG Millner Field.
Lee Grant
John Eales (66)
Thanks Kiap.
I had no idea this was happening otherwise I would have fronted.
Thanks for the blog and giving the result. It's no disgrace that Qld was beaten—I saw the Pampas XV play twice and they are very good team.
For those who don't know the Pampas XV team is made up of players who do not play in Europe, though some of them have done so in the past.
They could give a good account of themselves against certain Super Rugby teams if they are out of sorts.
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I had no idea this was happening otherwise I would have fronted.
Thanks for the blog and giving the result. It's no disgrace that Qld was beaten—I saw the Pampas XV play twice and they are very good team.
For those who don't know the Pampas XV team is made up of players who do not play in Europe, though some of them have done so in the past.
They could give a good account of themselves against certain Super Rugby teams if they are out of sorts.
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Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
So the unpaid interns decide not to tell the ARU accredited media representatives that this game was on.
HTF can one of the best Rugby Writers be treated with such contempt?
I'm looking at you Bill for an explanation why your mob don't think the rest of the rugby public need to know about these sort of games.
ARU Stooges cruising these threads need to report this to your boss.
Support the grass roots with other than male bovine excrement and contempt.
Omar Comin'
Chilla Wilson (44)
Hopefully any doubts Argentina will be able to field a competitive super rugby team will be put to bed now. Sure, they won't be able to attract their very best players back from Europe, but add to this squad a completely professional set up plus some of their existing pros and they'll surely have a pretty strong side.
And there was talk of Argentina going down the Australia / NZ eligibility route of only picking locally based players for test matches. If they do that I think they could field 2 decent teams in super rugby.
Also, the fact that the Fijian, Tongan and Samoan A teams are at the same level as our super rugby A teams shows you could easily have a PI super rugby team. Base it in Auckland with some matches in Western Sydney. They'd be everyone's favourite team to watch and would add a lot of value to the competition.
And there was talk of Argentina going down the Australia / NZ eligibility route of only picking locally based players for test matches. If they do that I think they could field 2 decent teams in super rugby.
Also, the fact that the Fijian, Tongan and Samoan A teams are at the same level as our super rugby A teams shows you could easily have a PI super rugby team. Base it in Auckland with some matches in Western Sydney. They'd be everyone's favourite team to watch and would add a lot of value to the competition.
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Unlikely to add much value, if anything basing it in Auckland and playing matches in Sydney is only going to compete with corporate support and fans in two already competitive markets.
Everyone can agree that pacific island flair is exhilarating to watch, but the financials behind a pacific island team simply don't add up. Two major factors which need to be considered when arguing for a new team; how big is the market which the team represents(broadcast value) and how much corporate support is likely to be generated in the region. In both those cases, a pacific island teams doesn't present a very competitive offer.
Omar Comin'
Chilla Wilson (44)
A pacific island team wouldn't be about expanding into new markets, it'd be about increasing quality content in the existing markets! Especially in Australia and New Zealand. They are good to watch and people would pay to see them. This is the most important factor. Plus the population of people with Samoan, Tongan and Fijian ancestry in Auckland and Western Sydney is significant so they're not going to struggle for a fan base.
Auckland is 10 times the size of Dunedin. It could support a 2nd super rugby team. Plus having a cross town rival is actually a positive. Look at soccer in Sydney since the Wanderers were introduced. And playing some matches in Western Sydney is hardly going to eat into the Waratahs supporter or corporate base.
Martin S
Frank Row (1)
I can´t agree more with you! I do not understand - IRB puts a lot of money in this tournament, the ARU agrees to be the sole host of the tournament and there has been almost no promotion! You cant even get the news in newspapers!
Bairdy
Peter Fenwicke (45)
Just to add on to your point about Argentina and bringing their top players to Super Rugby, I recall reading a very good article by Iain Payten about Agustin Pichot (the legendary Argentina scrumhalf who worked to make the Argentinian team a reality).
One of the points was that as a result of the lengthened Pumas season since their inclusion to the Rugby Championship, the massive wages for the French contracts that they were commanding before, were seeing significant cuts. And he [Agustin] said that the majority of the players were on board with the Super Rugby team. Some of their very best players in the NH, guys like Albacete, Lobbe, Hernandez, Leguizamon etc, are 30+ and unlikely to switch to Super Rugby while signed with lucrative contracts, but no doubt you could try to attract the younger players like the U20 players.
The article I was referring to is behind a paywall, but here it is:http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...into-super-rugby/story-fnii0ksb-1226843699776
And a shorter article here: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...ior-to-expansion/story-fni2fxyf-1226848334808
kiap
Steve Williams (59)
Video highlights of the 2014 PRC final - click on the pic below to view the video (commentary is in Spanish)
Some fine tries in this match—including a spectacular run (2nd pic below) by Reds A winger Veresa Mataitini !!
Result of the 3rd place playoff:
Some fine tries in this match—including a spectacular run (2nd pic below) by Reds A winger Veresa Mataitini !!
Absolutely right. The Aus rugby promotion was almost invisible and the minimal news/web items here have been put to shame by the Argentinian coverage from 12,000 km away.
Result of the 3rd place playoff:
Fiji Warriors 54-21 Tonga A
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
My concern is that the Argies' Super team will look a lot like a test team if they only have one in the comp. Think it would be better if two Argy teams were included.
kiap
Steve Williams (59)
Extracts from the Reds Rugby match report with some good comments from coach Peter Wilkins:
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Argentina crossed for their third try of the match before Nigel Genia scored Reds A’s first. Johnson missed the conversion but landed a further penalty leaving the Queenslanders six points behind the Argentines, 17-11, heading into the halftime break.
The second half saw Queensland Premier Rugby’s leading try scorer from the 2012 and 2013 seasons, Veressa Mataitini, score under the posts for Reds A. Johnson added the extra two to edge the Queenslanders in front, 18-17.
Reds A put themselves in a position to win the match with eight minutes to go, before the Argentines staged a late comeback, crossing for three late tries to close the game out 36-21.
Despite the loss, Reds A Head Coach Peter Wilkins thought that his team showed great application throughout the match.
“The team deserve a lot of credit for the intensity they played with today and for their application,” Wilkins said. “We had a clear game plan heading into the match to move Argentina’s big forward pack around the field and avoid set-piece contests and we managed to do that effectively."
"We put ourselves in a position to win the match but just lacked a little composure in their half.”
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