NSW CAS Rugby 2021
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Baxter
Peter Burge (5)
34-12 (something like that). Slack-Smith 2 tries
ZHC
Peter Burge (5)
Interesting, that no one has commented on the NSW squads.
https://www.nswjuniors.com.au/rep
I have two initial comments:
- Halaholo being select at 6 is his future position moving forward. A tad short of an international lock IMHO. He will kill it as a blindside breakaway.
- Knox's over representation. As Fitzy says, incoming ;-)
https://www.nswjuniors.com.au/rep
I have two initial comments:
- Halaholo being select at 6 is his future position moving forward. A tad short of an international lock IMHO. He will kill it as a blindside breakaway.
- Knox's over representation. As Fitzy says, incoming ;-)
axel
Bill Watson (15)
Over representation.........................there's 6 Knox boys been picked out of 84 spots available. I think thats probably fair enough, and each boy selected did well on Friday.
As for the young fella being picked at 6, IMHO he's done very well to make Gen Blue 1. His big mate Fritz has had much better running games than him, and his work over the ball is sub par. Your already suggesting he's a future international. So if you want to bag another school for getting too many selections ZHC....................theres one for Waverley right there.
WLF
Arch Winning (36)
Axe and ZHC, Here's are some thoughts.
Since the beginning of time some team selections have been and will remain political going forward.
Everyone will probably have a view on some positions. Clearly it has nothing to do with the boys, it's the selectors who make these calls. Clearly they got the CAS front row wrong v GPS, so what did they do for the next game, dropped the hooker, joke.
That's just 1 example there are many others covering many schools.
My biggest issue is with the timing of these rep events. I noticed on Thursday some notable injuries that will/may stop those boys playing out the rest of the school rugby comp. A comp that I would think is the priority for the vast majority of boys, with rep selections being nice but not as important as winning the school comp given all the preseason training and development through all the age groups.
Not that long ago these rep games were played after the school season, thereby not affecting the MOST important comp, that way everyone enjoyed the best of both worlds, no longer. That process also allowed every boy the chance to show his ability against his school opposites. No longer. This logic should also apply for other states, so they are all in step.
I guess all that should be ignored, because it's logical.
What a real shame.
Snort
Nev Cottrell (35)
Well, we know that the NSW selectors don't see eye-to-eye with the CAS selectors!
Interesting to see White in NSW 1sts. I like him, he's a handy player, but no one on this forum even expected him to make CAS 1sts. So, well done to him.
OK, on a completely different point. I'm trying to put together a set of complete CAS (competition) 1st XV records, just because I think it should exist. And I haven't done badly, but I've stumbled in the last ten years, when the papers more or less stopped publishing full scores. Does anyone have any idea of where this information is kept? For example, if I had the full scoring details for Waverley 69 Knox 31 from 2012, I could tell you whether Will Patterson broke the record for most points in a CAS season, and if I knew the full scores of Barker 95 Aloysius 7 from last year I could tell you whether Mitch Wheals kicked more goals than anyone else has in a CAS game. Any ideas?
Incidentally, the CAS website is weirdly wrong on several points. It has St Aloysius as joint premiers in 1972 (they were fifth). It has Trinity winning in 1964 (they were second to Knox, who won unbeaten). Needs an overhaul!
Interesting to see White in NSW 1sts. I like him, he's a handy player, but no one on this forum even expected him to make CAS 1sts. So, well done to him.
OK, on a completely different point. I'm trying to put together a set of complete CAS (competition) 1st XV records, just because I think it should exist. And I haven't done badly, but I've stumbled in the last ten years, when the papers more or less stopped publishing full scores. Does anyone have any idea of where this information is kept? For example, if I had the full scoring details for Waverley 69 Knox 31 from 2012, I could tell you whether Will Patterson broke the record for most points in a CAS season, and if I knew the full scores of Barker 95 Aloysius 7 from last year I could tell you whether Mitch Wheals kicked more goals than anyone else has in a CAS game. Any ideas?
Incidentally, the CAS website is weirdly wrong on several points. It has St Aloysius as joint premiers in 1972 (they were fifth). It has Trinity winning in 1964 (they were second to Knox, who won unbeaten). Needs an overhaul!
THP3
Bob McCowan (2)
The Gen blue sides are considered the top 2 sides
Rich_E
Ron Walden (29)
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If all else fails, you could go back through the weekly CAS match reviews published by Lee Grant and more recently myself and others. They should be available by going back through the schools forums pages. Let me know if you want me to provide clearer guidance. I may even be able to extract a bunch of urls for you. Happy to help. With things now all online, online sources like G&GR should help plug the gap.
Snort
Nev Cottrell (35)
Baxter
Peter Burge (5)
This standpoint may be frankly controversial and fringed upon by CAS boarders but a quality footy player in Bruton can fit into any XV, particularly Barker 1sts. Well, this may rig the competition because there has been a track record that any XV with Bruton eventuate as undefeated premiers
Rick Dalton
Frank Row (1)
Bruton - superlative versatility of which does not likely exceed the likes of 1 or 3, despite being a regular centre.
Alas, King's fibula snapped against Barker. Likely got gang b@nged by the tight five - would take a lot to bring that warrior to his knees. Hence, Aloys chances at securing the prem have gone close to <1% (of which hinges on the likes of MATHIAS and CLARKE). However, even more unfortunately is that this omits him from Barker's player market.
The alluring man in the coat must look elsewhere.
#PreyforBruton
WLF
Arch Winning (36)
Ok, so IMO some absolutely TERRIFIC news today re school Competition Rugby.
BUT please take this the right way!
Clearly the Covid situation is extremely bad for lots of people and businesses, and I am sure everyone feels the same, and we all wish things were different.
Whilst this pales into insignificance in comparison to this much bigger issue, the 2 NSW Gen Blue teams will apparently not be travelling to or playing their equivalent QLD teams, which in itself is not a good thing, but given the absolutely ridiculous timing of these events, ie during the schools own comps, there should hopefully be no more injuries leading into the final games of the school competitions.
Not sure if the other NSW rep teams will play each other, and not sure what purpose that would serve, other than to just have another game of footy, but hopefully when the current Covid situation subsides, shortly, we can resume normal practice and start focusing back on the school games.
It is clear that a number of key match ups will take place soon.
Sorry for not mentioning all games and schools, and as we all know there can be upsets, but based on the season so far, here are my key games, please feel free to add to this list.
GPS.
Notably : Kings v Joeys July 17
Scots V View July 24
View V Kings July 31
Joeys V Scots July 31
IMO the Big One will be Joeys V View August 7 (all things being equal as per history the crowd will be enormous at Joeys)
CAS : Barker v Waverley July 17
Knox v Barker July 31.
So here comes my very biased CAS opinion, happy to concede that, the Barker V Waves game at Barker, will decide the best schoolboy team in NSW, based on results this year. Having said that, Knox are a definite chance of beating Barker at Knox in the last round.
Forget the Rep games, school teams are clearly different, and I think are often better than rep teams for lots of reasons.
So, over to the forum, pick this to pieces BUT please nominate your winning GPS and CAS team and why.
Schoolboys if you feel the need to comment, by all means, BUT please be logical and not stupid, if that's possible!
Not long to go now, so let's all make the most of it.
BUT please take this the right way!
Clearly the Covid situation is extremely bad for lots of people and businesses, and I am sure everyone feels the same, and we all wish things were different.
Whilst this pales into insignificance in comparison to this much bigger issue, the 2 NSW Gen Blue teams will apparently not be travelling to or playing their equivalent QLD teams, which in itself is not a good thing, but given the absolutely ridiculous timing of these events, ie during the schools own comps, there should hopefully be no more injuries leading into the final games of the school competitions.
Not sure if the other NSW rep teams will play each other, and not sure what purpose that would serve, other than to just have another game of footy, but hopefully when the current Covid situation subsides, shortly, we can resume normal practice and start focusing back on the school games.
It is clear that a number of key match ups will take place soon.
Sorry for not mentioning all games and schools, and as we all know there can be upsets, but based on the season so far, here are my key games, please feel free to add to this list.
GPS.
Notably : Kings v Joeys July 17
Scots V View July 24
View V Kings July 31
Joeys V Scots July 31
IMO the Big One will be Joeys V View August 7 (all things being equal as per history the crowd will be enormous at Joeys)
CAS : Barker v Waverley July 17
Knox v Barker July 31.
So here comes my very biased CAS opinion, happy to concede that, the Barker V Waves game at Barker, will decide the best schoolboy team in NSW, based on results this year. Having said that, Knox are a definite chance of beating Barker at Knox in the last round.
Forget the Rep games, school teams are clearly different, and I think are often better than rep teams for lots of reasons.
So, over to the forum, pick this to pieces BUT please nominate your winning GPS and CAS team and why.
Schoolboys if you feel the need to comment, by all means, BUT please be logical and not stupid, if that's possible!
Not long to go now, so let's all make the most of it.
RuckInfringement
Frank Row (1)
WLF, I've got View edging Joeys in the GPS on the final day. In a game for the premiership, which has starved for View for 10 years, this group seems to have what it takes, especially if O'Donnell is back fit and firing by then (I have heard around the grounds that he is aiming for a return in Rd 3 vs Scots).
In the CAS, I've got Barker edging it as well, although could very well be a joint premiership. Knox away on the last game will be a very difficult game for Barker and Knox are massive underdogs to take out this season, led by Morrison who has been superb so far, they are definitely an outside chance to win it all. I really like Katoa and Slack-Smith from Barker, and I think they'll just be too good for Waves to handle. If the game was at Death Valley over in their eastern suburbs, my decision would most definitely change, but at the moment I'm sticking with Barker to win it all.
As for the best schoolboy team in NSW, I still believe the GPS premiers should face the CAS premiers in an end of season game. The trials showed that View could take down Barker while missing some of their key players, yet also fell to defeat against Knox in a game where they didn't reach their real potential. Riverview/Joeys/Scots vs Waves/Barker/Knox at the end of this year would make for one great game and while we all know that this game won't happen, what a wonder it would be to watch. Anyways, as a result of Riverview's win over Barker while missing a few key players, I've got them as my best NSW Schoolboy Team of 2020 if they manage to bring the shield back into their blue and white.
In the CAS, I've got Barker edging it as well, although could very well be a joint premiership. Knox away on the last game will be a very difficult game for Barker and Knox are massive underdogs to take out this season, led by Morrison who has been superb so far, they are definitely an outside chance to win it all. I really like Katoa and Slack-Smith from Barker, and I think they'll just be too good for Waves to handle. If the game was at Death Valley over in their eastern suburbs, my decision would most definitely change, but at the moment I'm sticking with Barker to win it all.
As for the best schoolboy team in NSW, I still believe the GPS premiers should face the CAS premiers in an end of season game. The trials showed that View could take down Barker while missing some of their key players, yet also fell to defeat against Knox in a game where they didn't reach their real potential. Riverview/Joeys/Scots vs Waves/Barker/Knox at the end of this year would make for one great game and while we all know that this game won't happen, what a wonder it would be to watch. Anyways, as a result of Riverview's win over Barker while missing a few key players, I've got them as my best NSW Schoolboy Team of 2020 if they manage to bring the shield back into their blue and white.
Baxter
Peter Burge (5)
Back to the gps forum view schoolboy