NSW CAS Rugby 2021

[shanky]

Without wanting to comment on this specific case, I’d say we all agree that precautionary approach is warranted with young people and head knocks.

‘Second impact syndrome’ is a real thing in youth head injuries. If we end up being over-cautious then it’s probably a good thing

 

[Hasbeen]

Wise words. The reported incident leaves one feeling a bit uneasy. If there is any doubt don’t play the young feller.

 

[Snort]

If RA intervened because they felt it was in the best interests of the player, then I'm 100% behind that. Concussion must be taken seriously and player welfare is the first concern.

Yet it appears in this case that the intervention leaves the player, school and doctor open to criticism when they all appear to have followed RA's own guidelines to the letter. This is why I think that either the intervention should be explained or the guidelines should be altered. If RA wants a blue card to amount to an automatic 19 day rest it should say so.

I keep coming back to this because the wider issue is so important. If it isn't good enough to follow RA's guidelines, then maybe the guidelines need to be changed.

And, for clarity, I don't believe for a moment that the school or player did anything wrong: I don't think Barker thought it needed its captain on deck to beat St Aloysius.

 

[rod skellet]

If RA intervened because they felt it was in the best interests of the player, then I'm 100% behind that. Concussion must be taken seriously and player welfare is the first concern.

Yet it appears in this case that the intervention leaves the player, school and doctor open to criticism when they all appear to have followed RA's own guidelines to the letter. This is why I think that either the intervention should be explained or the guidelines should be altered. If RA wants a blue card to amount to an automatic 19 day rest it should say so.

I keep coming back to this because the wider issue is so important. If it isn't good enough to follow RA's guidelines, then maybe the guidelines need to be changed.

And, for clarity, I don't believe for a moment that the school or player did anything wrong: I don't think Barker thought it needed its captain on deck to beat St Aloysius.

Your comments are so to the point Snort. I could not agree with you more.

 

[Snort]

Hey, random idea. This is the 92nd season of CAS Rugby, which means a centenary is coming up not too far away. I'm toying with the idea of compiling a centenary history of the competition. Is this a dumb idea, or worth pursuing?

 

[rod skellet]

Hey, random idea. This is the 92nd season of CAS Rugby, which means a centenary is coming up not too far away. I'm toying with the idea of compiling a centenary history of the competition. Is this a dumb idea, or worth pursuing?

Very worthwhile Snort. Let me know if I can help

 

[formerflanker]

Hey, random idea. This is the 92nd season of CAS Rugby, which means a centenary is coming up not too far away. I'm toying with the idea of compiling a centenary history of the competition. Is this a dumb idea, or worth pursuing?

Great idea.
get in first with your concept to the CAS who could offer enormous support and also prevent copy-cats from trying to gazump you.

 

[William88]

Some uncertainty about blue cards.

Suspected concussions are treated the same as concussions. In this instance, the player was concussed and the inappropriate actions of the CAS Convenor and Barker have let a lot of people down, particularly the CAS rep rugby teams. Players who present with concussion symptoms must be provided with a different diagnosis to overturn a blue card after they present with concussion symptoms, in this instance, it is clear, there can be no other diagnosis based on the footage.

Barker and CAS got this terribly wrong.

Whatever the outcome, there will have to be some sort of review of CAS concussion protocols moving forward as this needs to be taken out of the hands of schools who have a vested interest.

 

[rugby101]

Some uncertainty about blue cards.

Suspected concussions are treated the same as concussions. In this instance, the player was concussed and the inappropriate actions of the CAS Convenor and Barker have let a lot of people down, particularly the CAS rep rugby teams. Players who present with concussion symptoms must be provided with a different diagnosis to overturn a blue card after they present with concussion symptoms, in this instance, it is clear, there can be no other diagnosis based on the footage.

Barker and CAS got this terribly wrong.

Whatever the outcome, there will have to be some sort of review of CAS concussion protocols moving forward as this needs to be taken out of the hands of schools who have a vested interest.

I get your point William88, but I think what Rod is saying is that the player was provided with a different diagnosis both on the day and on the following Monday and as such was cleared to play. It's not for us, as people watching the video to diagnose, no matter how bad it looks (even if some parents on this forum may be doctors), it is for the physician who assessed the player to decide.

I agree though that the way this was handled certainly did affect the way the CAS 1st xv team was able to prepare, and there definitely needs to be some review done. With that in mind, though I think that to truly believe that the school had anything other that the wellbeing of the player as their top priority, is ridiculous.

 

[Lovetap]

I know in the past there has been re-selection leading into CAS 1st XV game 2 be interested to hear possible changes to the original team from game 1. I have heard many say that version 1 had a tough night due to conditions and it was hard to get any go forward especially at set piece , but let’s not forget the conditions were also the same for the GPS outfit.

 

[bring back rucking]

http://www.cas.nsw.edu.au/cas-opens-rugby-teams-to-play-ccc-and-chs-friday-18th-june/

 

[Baxter]

http://www.cas.nsw.edu.au/cas-opens-rugby-teams-to-play-ccc-and-chs-friday-18th-june/

Where is Bruton?

 

[massivehog100]

Hey Everyone, MHOG here.

I'm gonna say something that might come as a bit of a shock, but alas. It would not surprise me if Katoa (B) is picked at inside centre for the GEN BLUE side this coming break. With Bowen (I) at 10 and O'Donnell (I) injured I feel as though the dominant running game he has showcased throughout the season thus far (exception against Riverview) has put him in good stead to adopt that position in the squad. Call me stupid, but we will see on selection day....

Yours Truly, THE100

 

[Rugby Ref]

Will Fridays rep games be streamed on cluch?

 

[Snort]

So CAS plays CHS tomorrow. Random fact of the day: when CAS played CHS in 1966 and 1967, one of the second-rowers for CAS 1sts was a 6 foot 4 player from Barker: Philip Noyce. This Philip Noyce: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0637518/

Unclear whether any of this year's CAS pack will go on to direct movies.

 

[Hector]

Where is Bruton?

He's been getting around at school on one of these knee scooters with a boot on after the injury against Barker.

 

[Crashy]

So CAS plays CHS tomorrow. Random fact of the day: when CAS played CHS in 1966 and 1967, one of the second-rowers for CAS 1sts was a 6 foot 4 player from Barker: Philip Noyce. This Philip Noyce: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0637518/

Unclear whether any of this year's CAS pack will go on to direct movies.

Trumping any of his film achievements was being one of the founding fathers of Barker Old Boys Rugby Club - Noyce Bros wines also sponsor the club.

 

[Flavio]

As an aside to show how f**ked the CAS selection is in another sport - Volleyball
11 picked in the CAS squad - 8 Trinity, 1 Knox, 1 Barker, 1 Cranbrook, no Alo's no Waverly. Coach Trinity
CAS v GPS the 3 non Trinity players got about 20 minutes court time each in a 2 1/2 hour match, maybe a bit more for the Knox boy as the manager was from Knox. The final set was 90% Trinity players, who were obviously getting tired even though there were 3 players who hadn't been able to break a sweat.
Needless to say they lost 3 sets to 2 and I have a very pissed off son

 

[Baxter]

As an aside to show how f**ked the CAS selection is in another sport - Volleyball
11 picked in the CAS squad - 8 Trinity, 1 Knox, 1 Barker, 1 Cranbrook, no Alo's no Waverly. Coach Trinity
CAS v GPS the 3 non Trinity players got about 20 minutes court time each in a 2 1/2 hour match, maybe a bit more for the Knox boy as the manager was from Knox. The final set was 90% Trinity players, who were obviously getting tired even though there were 3 players who hadn't been able to break a sweat.
Needless to say they lost 3 sets to 2 and I have a very pissed off son

This is absurd

 

[Baxter]

As an aside to show how f**ked the CAS selection is in another sport - Volleyball
11 picked in the CAS squad - 8 Trinity, 1 Knox, 1 Barker, 1 Cranbrook, no Alo's no Waverly. Coach Trinity
CAS v GPS the 3 non Trinity players got about 20 minutes court time each in a 2 1/2 hour match, maybe a bit more for the Knox boy as the manager was from Knox. The final set was 90% Trinity players, who were obviously getting tired even though there were 3 players who hadn't been able to break a sweat.
Needless to say they lost 3 sets to 2 and I have a very pissed off son

You got me pal. Maybe you should check this out before making hostile remarks?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...YOqckg5JM9/pubhtml?gid=1014659452&single=true