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NSW AAGPS Rugby 2016

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Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Ok some of these teams have an unusually high number of 1st players returning which means some of them must be doing 'pathways' or they are naming every player that made an appearance for the 1st rather than regular 1st players

It's not uncommon for the better players to play 2 years of first XV. When they play three, it usually indicates a unique talent or pathways. For most, I suspect, the latter.
 

formerflanker

Ken Catchpole (46)
It's not uncommon for the better players to play 2 years of first XV. When they play three, it usually indicates a unique talent or pathways. For most, I suspect, the latter.

Yep, not too many boys make the 1st XV whilst in year 10. They usually go on to be superstars, as Kurtley Beale did.
 

Azzuri

Trevor Allan (34)
I'm not close enough to any of the schools to really know the answer to that.


Does it really even matter?

If the lads are the right age and have the requisite skill then IMHO it actually doesn't matter. It's up to parents if they are happy to shell out a pile of hard earned sheckles for another year of private school fees.
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Does it really even matter?

If the lads are the right age and have the requisite skill then IMHO it actually doesn't matter. It's up to parents if they are happy to shell out a pile of hard earned sheckles for another year of private school fees.

As long as the interests of the boy are paramount and the interests of the school/coach are secondary I don't think it does really matter. I'm not sure that this is always the case though.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
^^^^^ wrong thread for this sort of talk. Take the leading questions and conclusions to the Hotel California thread.

Cards will be issued soon if this sort of talk continues.
 

Black & White

Vay Wilson (31)
New Japan Scores
Game 1 W - 17-7
Game 2 W - 70-0
Game 3 W - 55-0
Game 4 W - 37-17


After Japan's defeat of South Africa in the World Rugby Cup, nobody should take their Rugby for granted. Clearly, Games 2& 4 are indicative of this improving trend. Apart from the Rugby experience, I am sure the Newington boys will value this tour as a cultural exposure, that they will value for a lifetime.

Back to Japanese Rugby, if the money and time could be found a yearly match between Australian and Japanese Schoolboys should now be a consideration on the Australian Rugby Calendar. Scores may vary 2005 such as 2005, Australia Won 105-5, but could be closer as in 1984 Australia where Won 20-6.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
Not long now.

2016 AAGPS Draw for 1st XV, 2nd XV, and 3rd XV games

Round 1 7 May 16
1st XV – N v K, J v I, E v S
2nd XV – N v K, J v I, E v S
3rd XV -Trial 3 – N v K, E v S, J v G, A v H, I bye

Round 2 14 May 16
1st XV – K v S, E v J, N v I
2nd XV – K v S, E v J, N v I
3rd XV – Round 1 – K v S, I v J, N v H, A v G, E bye

Round 3 21 May 16
1st XV – K v J, I v E, S v N
2nd XV – K v J, I v E, S v N
3rd XV – Round 2 - K v A, S v J, H v E, I v G, N bye

Round 4 28 May 16
1st XV – I v K, J v S, N v E
2nd XV – I v K, J v S, N v E
3rd XV – Round 3 – N v K, J v H, G v E, A v S, I bye

Round 5 4 Jun 16
1st XV – E v K, J v N, S v I
2nd XV – E v K, J v N, S v I
3rd XV – Round 4 – H v K, E v J, I v A, G v N, S bye

Round 6 18 Jun 16
1st XV – K v N, I v J, S v E
2nd XV – K v N, I v J, S v E
3rd XV – Round 5 – J v G, S v E, H v I, A v N, K bye

Round 7 23 Jul 16
1st XV – S v K, J v E, I v N
2nd XV – S v K, J v E, I v N
3rd XV – Round 6 – G v K, A v E, I v N, S v H, J bye

Round 8 30 Jul 16
1st XV – J v K, E v I, N v S
2nd XV – J v K, E v I, N v S
3rd XV – Round 7 – J v K, E v I, N v S, H v A, G bye

Round 9 06 Aug 16
1st XV – K v I, S v J, E v N
2nd XV – K v I, S v J, E v N
3rd XV – Round 8 – K v I, J v A, E v N, S v G, H bye

Round 10 13 Aug 16
1st XV – K v E, N v J, I v S
2nd XV – K v E, N v J, I v S
3rd XV – Round 9 – K v E, N v J, I v S, H v G, A bye


AAGPS Rep Calendar
18 Jun 16 Representative Teams Selected and announced on AAGPS website (7pm)
19 Jun 16 Representative Teams Uniform Issue, Training & Photographs
20 Jun 16 Representative Teams Training, Dinner
21 Jun 16 AAGPS 2nd XV v CAS 2nd XV, AAGPS 1st XV v CAS 2nd XV
23 Jun 16 1st XV, 2nd XV, 3rd XV Training
24 Jun 16 2nd XV v CHS 2nd XV, 1st XV v CHS 1st XV
25 Jun 16 NSWSRU Teams announced
 

Black & White

Vay Wilson (31)
Not sure if this has been said before, but I honestly think the Newington "Reign of Terror" has ended, two teams in the 16s? Sorry, but that's not promising.


Watch the 16As and 15A results, Newington's rugby renaissance( I prefer renaissance as it acknowledges the hard work of coaches, parents old Boys and the boys themselves0) could still continue:-

!6As NC W39-19 against WC
15As NC W41-7 against WC
14As Convincing Win to NC
13As Win to NC

Although it is still early days, to beat a traditionally strong Rugby school such as Waverly,by some of the amounts stated, gives hope for the future. However, I do agree that 2017 could well prove to a difficult year. On the positive side I would expect that the Newington 1st XV of 2017 will be a young side, with hopes for 2018.
 
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Runpasstackle

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Interesting you mention the old boys Union???? What impact or recruitment influence do they have at newingtion???? Espically the 16s this year.
 

Black & White

Vay Wilson (31)
Interesting you mention the old boys Union???? What impact or recruitment influence do they have at newingtion???? Espically the 16s this year.


I was not implying "S" word, but rather the raising of funds for the Rugby in training resources and providing expert coaches.
 

OAUI

Allen Oxlade (6)
Rachet, would seem a bit inconsistent if I highlighted him (Quninn) in one post and then responding to a request for a review of the Joe v Marist match failed to mention him again. You may be right and my opinion is flawed but I have no reason to be disappointed, possibly more reason to be happy if not selected in their 1sts and playing against competition I affiliate with.
 

SonnyDillWilliams

Nev Cottrell (35)
I would be curious to know if all the gps schools are much the same in terms of the level of commitment that is being put on kids in the 1sts.

Scots seems to have the recent reputation although always thought joeys were known for their extraordinary training

And more importantly wondering if it is getting to the level that if you are in the firsts you are doing your atar chances a lot of damage

Have their been any recent rugby stars that have managed atars over 98?
 

OldColt

Sydney Middleton (9)
I would be curious to know if all the gps schools are much the same in terms of the level of commitment that is being put on kids in the 1sts.

Scots seems to have the recent reputation although always thought joeys were known for their extraordinary training

And more importantly wondering if it is getting to the level that if you are in the firsts you are doing your atar chances a lot of damage

Have their been any recent rugby stars that have managed atars over 98?


SDW - based on our experience at a school other than Scots, I'd have to suggest that any boy playing in either the 1st or 2nd XV was doing their ATAR chances a significant amount of harm, unless they were boarding or doing pathways. In the case of my son (2nd XV), there was the requirement of a minimum of 3 morning sessions and 3 afternoon sessions per week - and factoring in his travel time of 45-60 mins each way, he was putting in 13 hour days. Other than the occasional free period during the day, his study time was limited to the brief period he could stay awake after getting home at 7pm and having a feed, or early Saturday mornings and Sundays, or the occasional afternoon not devoted to other co-curricular activities. This was the pattern for Yr 11 and Yr 12, given that the training workload for the rowing program in summer was much the same as rugby in winter - while my young bloke thoroughly enjoyed every aspect of his time at school, and is now doing a degree he seems to enjoy, I can't help but wonder what his ATAR might have been if he'd had more time to study.
 

formerflanker

Ken Catchpole (46)
I would be curious to know if all the gps schools are much the same in terms of the level of commitment that is being put on kids in the 1sts.

Scots seems to have the recent reputation although always thought joeys were known for their extraordinary training

And more importantly wondering if it is getting to the level that if you are in the firsts you are doing your atar chances a lot of damage

Have their been any recent rugby stars that have managed atars over 98?
The Joeys training regime was/is based as much on the boarding experience as sporting requirements. Keeping young adolescents busy with physical activity is a strategy well known to all. The expensive, efficient drainage on the Joeys playing fields were not installed just to provide a good Saturday playing surface, but to have fields available all week for training for all boys.

The concerns about training and travelling eating into study time have been addressed by some parents and boys by at GPS schools by switching into boarding for years 11 and 12.
 

james rashleigh

Frank Row (1)
News from Joeys: Word has it that yirribi jaffer williams will be moving to flyhalf for round 1 against view, as wilkinson has injured his ankle
 
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