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John Eales (66)
I am by no mean of the pompous ilk, but..the value of keeping High in the GPS over the last 30 years has been nil..they add zero.
till next year guys, enjoy your summer.
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I am by no mean of the pompous ilk, but..the value of keeping High in the GPS over the last 30 years has been nil..they add zero.
till next year guys, enjoy your summer.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Wondering if the kings result is the biggest loss they've sustained in 1's?
Also, despite my well known position on the particular circumstances, I have to admire the principles of the TKS rugby heirarchy who have stuck to their guns.
Also, despite my well known position on the particular circumstances, I have to admire the principles of the TKS rugby heirarchy who have stuck to their guns.
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Rocky Elsom (76)
I know of other Kings boys who are playing club footy. Not in Opens. No names mentioned for fear of retribution.
Admire principles by all means, but would admire TKS more if the principles were consistently applied.
Selective application makes the heirarchy no better than the buffoons in other associations and affiliates.
Admire principles by all means, but would admire TKS more if the principles were consistently applied.
Selective application makes the heirarchy no better than the buffoons in other associations and affiliates.
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Sydneybra
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Have to commend Xavier May and on his performance yesterday. He had the hardest job on the park of controlling Tepai coming back on the angle and although it looked like he got diced every time he actually brought Tepai to ground most of the time and made countless turn overs. My MOTM for Riverview
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Nev Cottrell (35)
My congrats also to Newington on their undefeated season - such a well balanced all round team and very deserving premiers.
Would have loved to have seen Scots playing Newington in the last round of the season for the premiership as based on what I saw yesterday Scots would have given them a real challenge. I have never witnessed a schoolboy backline at any level function as well as Scots did at Kings yesterday. They played with amazing depth, width and speed and their passing was superb.
They went wide at every opportunity from all over the field and scored some sensational tries. It was absolutely thrilling rugby to watch and I'm sure that plenty of it will go up on their school sports videos. One aspect of their game that both surprised and was enthralling was their willingness to offload in the tackle which they did often and with the confidence that a team mate would be there to collect a late popped pass. It resulted in tries that in any other game would have seen a running play come to an end. No doubt they wished they had played in a similar manner when they met Newington earlier in the GPS rounds as if they had done so they would be the ones celebrating the premiership today.
Would have loved to have seen Scots playing Newington in the last round of the season for the premiership as based on what I saw yesterday Scots would have given them a real challenge. I have never witnessed a schoolboy backline at any level function as well as Scots did at Kings yesterday. They played with amazing depth, width and speed and their passing was superb.
They went wide at every opportunity from all over the field and scored some sensational tries. It was absolutely thrilling rugby to watch and I'm sure that plenty of it will go up on their school sports videos. One aspect of their game that both surprised and was enthralling was their willingness to offload in the tackle which they did often and with the confidence that a team mate would be there to collect a late popped pass. It resulted in tries that in any other game would have seen a running play come to an end. No doubt they wished they had played in a similar manner when they met Newington earlier in the GPS rounds as if they had done so they would be the ones celebrating the premiership today.
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Stan Wickham (3)
well done to newington the deserving champions and scots, also joeys for taking out 10 out of 12 of the opens titles.
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Chris McKivat (8)
Your appraisal of the Scot's backs performance is both generaous and factual. I agree with your summary that it was one of the best expositions of schoolboy running rugby that spectators and Scot's supporters have seen for many years. It all just clicked for the boys yesterday and they were all so confident in what they did. It was also great retribution for the drubbing that Kings gave us in the trial game earlier in the season. While Kings were without some of their backline stars I think that the way the Scot's boys played yesterday they would have had a comfortable win even if these missing players had been on the field. The 71-19 scoreline was a true indication of Scots dominance in the game and while the backs have got most of the glory the Scots forwards played a big part in the win dominating most facets of play.
David Horwitz had a truly magical game setting up the outside backs and hopefully the Australian Schoolboys selectors will get to see a video of the game and then add him to the Fiji touring squad. Jim Stewart broke the line plenty of times and Andrew Kellaway was as outstanding as ever. Dylan Jones also made plenty of breaks and thrived on the service he got from the players inside him. Hamish Dunbar and Angus Chrichton were the stand outs in the forwards for Scots. For Kings McCalmen and Randall never stopped trying and Davies looked dangerous in attack and scored a good try. The replacement prop from their seconds, Bateman who they brought on at the start of the second half was very impressive in the scrums and made it a real contest for Isileli Sa who otherwise had a very good game making a couple of big runs.
Kings were great hosts and very gracious in such a heavy defeat and whilst its not the way they would have wanted to finish their season they will surely come back stronger next year. Their seconds team looked very good in winning well and from all accounts they had a good year finishing runners up to Joeys. Full praise though to our Scots boys and despite the disappointment of not winning the GPS title they should be very proud of their performances in 2012.
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Regina George
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Grammar vs High yesterday was quite a competitive game - although the experience of a season of playing a division up was clearly beneficial to the boys in black.
Public confusion over the score (evident in this thread) in both the 2nd and 1st XV games resulted from a supporter stepping on and destroying the scoreboard antenna towards the end of the 2nd XV match - a confusing but accidental occurence.
In the 1st XV several on-field scuffles left the boys chanting ish ish ush ush but the off field incident was nothing but a lot of hot air from certain High supporters - and shouldn't detract from the strong final game of the season that both teams presented and a good way to say hey-ey-ey goodbye to six years of GPS sport
Public confusion over the score (evident in this thread) in both the 2nd and 1st XV games resulted from a supporter stepping on and destroying the scoreboard antenna towards the end of the 2nd XV match - a confusing but accidental occurence.
In the 1st XV several on-field scuffles left the boys chanting ish ish ush ush but the off field incident was nothing but a lot of hot air from certain High supporters - and shouldn't detract from the strong final game of the season that both teams presented and a good way to say hey-ey-ey goodbye to six years of GPS sport
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Allen Oxlade (6)
Seriously this is a load of rubbish. There is nothing good about a competition with differing entry criteria. Yes Newington and scots are wonderfull teams but they excelled in a competition that is not level. The NRL product is leaving rugby in its wake. This level competition has been achieved with a salary cap. This whole forum is praising schools that are openly defying the rules of the comp. the teams that are not ignoring the rules are being punished.
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Ron Walden (29)
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Ron Walden (29)
Which teams would they be...why are scots and new singled out by you ? Is it because they beat your team.? Holier than though doesn't work here.....try and admit that the world is not flat...your team is no different than ours and you were beaten by a better team ....well done new too good...
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Frank Row (1)
That depends on which grade you are referring to. I know that High who finished equal 4th beat Shore who finished 2nd in the 3rd s this year.
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Frank Row (1)
What an ignorant pompous remark to make. On behalf of all rugby players I take offence to such a simplistic foolish comment as the one made above. Rugby is a game for the masses, we all have a right to play it and enjoy it's principles of camaraderie, loyalty, team work, discipline and hard work. At the recent world cup there were some massive wins against under dogs, but the crowds and teams loved being there in support and play of the game. The important point is it is about the participation and High are competing competitively against their opposition. Graded correctly High are more than able to put out a competitive team, lets not forget some schools were able to put out an 11th XV this year compared to High who barely managed to put together 3 opens teams. I was at the High game and yes I am a High supporter but any fool would see the main game was competitive for 60 minutes. The respect shown by Grammar towards the High boys was appropriate after a hard fought win, only the players can know how hard they had to battle on the field to win. High are serious about rebuilding and have developed a intense rugby program to achieve this, they will be a force in the next 3 years. A good example of what can be done is St Augustines, 7 years ago they were beaten by St Pius by 70. Look at them now.
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^ dont have an ooksah
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
I have noticed on the Schools rugby tribune result sheet that Napier Boys High School 1st XV made the NZ top 4 championship playoff. Beaten in the Semis by Otago Boys High School.
The point of talking about a Darkness result is I recall that Napier were at the Gold Coast Tournament back in July holidays. So were Shore and View. The final of that tournament was between Shore and View. IIRC they drew.
View played Napier and beat them in pool play. Shore were in a different pool and therefore didn't play them.
In my meandering way, and on paper, from a benchmarking perspective, both Shore and View (on the back of a draw in the GF and View beating Napier in pool play) have the capacity to perform at the same level as one of the top four teams in New Zealand college sport.
I think (but can't find the evidence) that Scots or one of the teams from Sydney was written up in Gaggerland as having played and beaten both Christchurch and Otago Boys High in a preseason tour of the Shakey Isles. Schools Rugby Tribune records that these two teams made the South Island knockout final for the rights to progress to the NZ Top 4 1st XV competition.
This further reinforces the suggestion that our Schoolboy footy is on par with what the Darkness can throw at us.
The point of talking about a Darkness result is I recall that Napier were at the Gold Coast Tournament back in July holidays. So were Shore and View. The final of that tournament was between Shore and View. IIRC they drew.
View played Napier and beat them in pool play. Shore were in a different pool and therefore didn't play them.
In my meandering way, and on paper, from a benchmarking perspective, both Shore and View (on the back of a draw in the GF and View beating Napier in pool play) have the capacity to perform at the same level as one of the top four teams in New Zealand college sport.
I think (but can't find the evidence) that Scots or one of the teams from Sydney was written up in Gaggerland as having played and beaten both Christchurch and Otago Boys High in a preseason tour of the Shakey Isles. Schools Rugby Tribune records that these two teams made the South Island knockout final for the rights to progress to the NZ Top 4 1st XV competition.
This further reinforces the suggestion that our Schoolboy footy is on par with what the Darkness can throw at us.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Very interesting HJ.
Got me looking - geez that comp runs very deep: I'm sure you could lift that model, apply it here and see the improvement in 5-10 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_First_XV_Championship_(New_Zealand)
I'd love to see the boys from the West Coast "coinference" of the South Island - thats tiger country!
I respect your point of view, but first i feel its unfair to those schools like Shore and Riverview who push Newington to wire. Their excellence performance over the last two rounds indicates nobody is being punished rather the GPS competition is more balanced with six strong sides. This differs from the 1& 2 horse race of 10 years ago where, Kings and Joeys had no peers and everybody else made up the numbers. This situation no longer exists. As both Newington and Scots were by no means seen to be the teams they became. Second, this is indicated by the numerous posts who rated Scots somewhere Between a 4th to 6th placed position, myself included. And nobody was feeling those sides beating Scots in the trials were being punished them. Its seems it s only when Scots hit form and turned their season turned around that complaints such as yours emerged. Third, to say its not level playing field because Newington or Scots have boys who play Rugby League is irrelevant.
In the past Joeys/Kings have had their share of League converts in their school teams. Should playing Rugby League exclude a boy from playing Rugby Union NO. I see Rugby League as a great game and the old working class/ middle prejudice that has existed between the codes needs to be buried. If the ARU and the Super XV franchises can use League players why not schoolboys. As for the Rules there open interpretation and have been ignored to greater or lesser degree by all schools. The reality is, well my friend,we live in a sports mad society where a young man can earn money and establish a career in League or Union starting in school. Who are we deny such young men an opportunity in life.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
As a matter of interest how many kids in this year's GPS comp do you think would be able to make a living playing rugby union, or league for that matter?
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
^^^^ I have been told that statistically more will become orthopaedic surgeons, than professional athletes. And the pay is better.
Perhaps AAGPS should consider granting Medical Student Scholarships.
Perhaps AAGPS should consider granting Medical Student Scholarships.
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