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Ward Prentice (10)
Over 6 foot is VERY tall for a 14 year old, that's definitely the exception rather than the norm! But kids are growing earlier and getting bigger, no doubt about it.
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Alan Cameron (40)
A highlight package put together by a couple of Shore year 11 boys. Very good considering the quality of the film they were given to work with. Jack and Nic Clancy (10 and 15) razzles and dazzles throughout, as does Steane Davies (12 and 15 - depending upon the games played).
Will be interesting to see how both the Clancys (alongside Jum Woodhill, Nathan Lucas and Harry Emery) go next year and the year after given their tremendous form this season.
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Bob downe
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Not sure why the obsessIon with junior nc boys in teams that aren't dominating gps competitions. The nc 15a's are a strong side with a couple of Polynesian boys who aren't particularly big.
I find it ironic also that people find put opl in the xl class and why it might work against him. Recent high performing aus schoolboy props such as Jed Gillespie (tks 2010) and Alan Ala'alatoa (nc 2011) were both around 110-115kg in yr12. Both have done well since in Shute and junior rep respectively. The key is getting these kids in front of guys like Andrew blades who is probably the best technician in the front row the ARU has.
I find it ironic also that people find put opl in the xl class and why it might work against him. Recent high performing aus schoolboy props such as Jed Gillespie (tks 2010) and Alan Ala'alatoa (nc 2011) were both around 110-115kg in yr12. Both have done well since in Shute and junior rep respectively. The key is getting these kids in front of guys like Andrew blades who is probably the best technician in the front row the ARU has.
George Smith
Ted Thorn (20)
certainly seems like an edited highlights footage for the No10 (Jack Clancy)! In referring to "next year and year after" in same sentance as the Clancy twins does this mean Shore have 'asked' them to stay behind for another year on top of 2013 (ie. pathways for 2014)?? Certainly make for good rugby alongside Woodhill, Emery plus the other year 10 lads coming through.
George Smith
Ted Thorn (20)
To ascertain the 'depth' of each School's rugby program, with an eye for next year, I looked at the results for their top 3 teams plus the emerging players coming through (U16s). The results are interesting.
GPS Rugby Stats - 2012
Full Table
source: GPS Schools' publicly available information
GPS Rugby Stats - 2012
Full Table
source: GPS Schools' publicly available information
George Smith
Ted Thorn (20)
The summary for all 6 teams ranks the schools with the greatest depth in their top and emerging teams. ie. 1sts,2nds,3rds 16A,B,Cs.
But if you contend that the 3rds is full of year 12 boys and the 16B and C are not true indicators of a schools depth then the summary just for the 1s, 2s and 16As is:
These results suggests that Joeys and Scots have the overall best rugby programs any way you cut and slice the data. Newington concentrate on their 1sts and 2nds only (some may contend imports etc). Kings, Riverview and Shore show glimpses of greatness but do not have the depth to maintain winning results for every round of the comp (ie the replacements to injured players are not up to it)!
But if you contend that the 3rds is full of year 12 boys and the 16B and C are not true indicators of a schools depth then the summary just for the 1s, 2s and 16As is:
These results suggests that Joeys and Scots have the overall best rugby programs any way you cut and slice the data. Newington concentrate on their 1sts and 2nds only (some may contend imports etc). Kings, Riverview and Shore show glimpses of greatness but do not have the depth to maintain winning results for every round of the comp (ie the replacements to injured players are not up to it)!
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Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
A belated congratulations to Newington 1ts XV on a great season. A very good team, well coached and play the game in fine spirit.
A great season of GPS rugby in which 6 teams could realistically have defeated anyone on a particular day. Plenty of close results right to the end except where injuries mounted (TKS).
Scots are showing the results of really concentrating on coaching and skills, right down to the 13s, which they began about 8-10 years ago with the appointment of Andrew Cleverley. (Plenty of others involved as well)
It would be nice if we have a similarly competitive GPS competition next season. Hopefully Grammar can implement some sort of 13-opens coaching and skills programme. Whenever I have seen their age group teams play over the years, they play with plenty of spirit and enthusiasm, but appear to lack base skills. If well-coached, there is no reason why these boys cannot be competitive by the time they reach open level.
A great season of GPS rugby in which 6 teams could realistically have defeated anyone on a particular day. Plenty of close results right to the end except where injuries mounted (TKS).
Scots are showing the results of really concentrating on coaching and skills, right down to the 13s, which they began about 8-10 years ago with the appointment of Andrew Cleverley. (Plenty of others involved as well)
It would be nice if we have a similarly competitive GPS competition next season. Hopefully Grammar can implement some sort of 13-opens coaching and skills programme. Whenever I have seen their age group teams play over the years, they play with plenty of spirit and enthusiasm, but appear to lack base skills. If well-coached, there is no reason why these boys cannot be competitive by the time they reach open level.
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Rocky Elsom (76)
And why can't the ARU do likewise and implement a coaching system that concentrates on skills development, right down to the under 6's?
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David Wilson (68)
Very good question.
I think that they are happy to let the schools and junior volunteers do the heavy lifting. There are some development officers, all of whom do a good job, but they are spread so thinly.
I notice that Newington have appointed Tim Rapp in an overall coaching role similar to that Andrew Cleverley at Scots. I certainly hope that he fulfils that vital role in 13s - 16s. That's where the skills are built, it's too late at opens
I think that they are happy to let the schools and junior volunteers do the heavy lifting. There are some development officers, all of whom do a good job, but they are spread so thinly.
I notice that Newington have appointed Tim Rapp in an overall coaching role similar to that Andrew Cleverley at Scots. I certainly hope that he fulfils that vital role in 13s - 16s. That's where the skills are built, it's too late at opens
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Herbert Moran (7)
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Wowsah
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I might be missing something but isn't Shore "scegs" not "sceggs"?
Noted that myself, Wowsah. I was at Hunters Hill a few weeks ago and didn't see either SCEGGS Redlands or Darlinghurst running around, tho' I'm sure the schoolboys wouldn't've minded. Always wondered why Shore don't change their name to Sydney Anglican Grammar School, others could then call them Saggers.
Going by that table Joeys lost three matches and drew one out of 36. Not a bad effort, just goes to show how much the boys in cerise and blue enjoy playing the game.
Going by that table Joeys lost three matches and drew one out of 36. Not a bad effort, just goes to show how much the boys in cerise and blue enjoy playing the game.
George Smith
Ted Thorn (20)
OK I have corrected the SCEGGS to SHORE for you guys...
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DragonMan
Jimmy Flynn (14)
How big are Joeys and Scots (ie student numbers)? Does size matter?Joeys looking very strong in 2013!
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HarveyColon
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i'm not entirely shore about that one...ha....hahaha.................ha
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Tight head Lion
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Scots have 1300 in senior school and 29 teams
Joeys have 1000 and 46 teams.
Scots have the same amount of soccer teams as rugby.
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