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NSW AAGPS Rugby 2012

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Wowsah

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Just read the Scots blog. Retire the keyboard Fred. If you could show one iota of grace ala Gristlechewer you might get to write another. But somehow methinks not.

Are you referring to the article on Saturdays game, shore v scots? If so, I was a little taken aback at not only how incorrect some of the points were but the spirit in which they were delivered. I probably won't read a match report from that author again unless he can actually deliver a match report and not a series of ungracious sentences. Not mention the title of the article which made no sense as last week Scots were thumped by a similar scoreline at the hands of Newington. Aren't therefore Scots to be considered "pretenders".
 

wreckless

Bob Loudon (25)
I see Carter grabbed a couple. I suppose this will only perhaps serve to frustrate Jones more (assuming Carter stayed at 11 the whole game). Was it him creating chances, finishing off breaks, etc? Would be interested to gain perspective on what position everyone believes Jones would best be able to place himself in the game. Clearly full of talent, but I just don't see the King's system utilising him. Anyone at all of their games able to give me a good insight on this? Many thanks.

As I noted in a previous post, Jones is playing at 15 in his club team (Newport) in the SJRU Open A's and they have reached next weeks Grand Final after they qualified in first place. He scored a couple of tries in the major semi. He seems to be able to get more involved from 15 - would that be a fair assessment? It's a good point - from reports Jones rarely sees the ball but Carter has grabbed his chance by the look of it! Maybe he's enjoying his Sunday game more at 15 than being starved on the wing on Saturday - I agree that not getting on the scoreboard against SGS was amazing!
 

SonnyDillWilliams

Nev Cottrell (35)
I know this will go down "like a lead balloon", at least with some .... however I think the GPS Rugby Comp is broken

with SGS being beaten by close to hundred repeatedly, and SHS struggling in 2nds, some common sense needs to prevail

my son plays rugby league (as well as his school union), and his team got regraded mid-season into division 2 ... kids getting beaten up in one-sided matches proves nothing and becomes a safety issue

whether they could form a division 1 with stronger GPS and CAS sides, and a 2nd division, with weaker schools, I don't know

either way just hope we don't have to see a horrific schoolboy injury before common sense prevails

if memory serves me correct Weigal has had serious neck injuries in the past ... and no one wants to see that!
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
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Interesting to see the referee for Shore vs Newington this weekend- Nigel Owens.

Hopefully should ensure the game is free-flowing, and complaints about the ref are kept to a minimum.

Hopefully.
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Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
Match Report : Newington vs. The Bye

One can't really see The Bye lifting from here with a tough round next week against View who, even with much reported injuries, should come away with the points!

.....snip....

More of the same this week from The Bye?

As well as the poor form to date from The Bye, I think that View will use their home ground advantage to good effect and are at unbackable odds to come away with the competition points.

Looking across the rest of the grades, realistically The Bye will be on the wrong side of the ledger in all grades.

Will you be following The Bye this week over at View, or back to Stanmore for New v Shore?
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
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I worry for the Bye's future in the GPS comp.

If you were to expand to an 8 team comp you really couldn't justify a place for it. Likewise if you went back to a 6 team comp.
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Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
I agree. If the powers to be deem that SGS are not viable in Opens 1 GPS level, then The Bye MUST also be relegated. Their record is almost as bad, and they are a notoriously difficult team to try and reschedule any wash out games with.

One thing in their favour is their impecable discipline record. Correct me if I am wrong, but I can not recall them ever receiving any Yellow or Red Cards. Even so, there really is no place for them in a 6 or 8 team competition.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
I was going to leave this discussion alone, however I have just checked the Round 7 Draw and guess what those masters of Machiavellian manipulation at The Bye have done?

They have pulled out of the competition for the last round of the season and forced Grammar to take on High instead. Grammar at least get to retain the home ground advantage, but have been denied the easy points available from The Bye and will need to work hard against High for any points.

One can only think that they are trying to steal some sort of march on the Summer Sports Programme by getting an extra week headstart. This cynical manipulation of the programme should not be tolerated by the AAGPS administration team. Even though they may be trying to sneak in some extra preseason summer sports programme preparation, I can't see them improving their past record until they address the root cultural issues within The Bye.

They seem to have a culture of accepting mediocre performances. Their losing streak will continue until there is more of a focus on athletic performances. Dare I suggest, their performances could be improved with some more attention focused on their Orchestral Percussion programme. A mate of mine has suggested that their Triangle ensemble is actively looking for some new recruits to bolster numbers, and apparently a major infrastructure company is being courted for funds to assist with their Percussion revitalisation.

My final word on the matter is that something must be done about The Bye. They are simply not good enough.
 
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Wowsah

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Dear Wowsah, just went back and read your reply and you're right.how we got into that slanging match is beyond me.i might be becoming sensitive in my old age..i apologise

No harm done. Cheers for being a good sport. I'll delete my responses to your posts with the aim of removing what was essentially an unnecessary argument on both parts.
 

SonnyDillWilliams

Nev Cottrell (35)
trouble with grading is always trying to ensure there is no "bye" ... so even numbers, and also working out if it is just about the 1st XV comp, or is more about across the age range depth, playing numbers, etc

oh well I guess .. that is why there is no easy fix

I would like to see something like

Division 1
Newington, Joeys, Riverview, Scots, Shore, Kings, plus top 2 CAS teams

and with ability of schools to be relegated to Division 2 or brought up to Division 1

oh well see what happens

Is that Buckling kid (from Shore) gone? I didn't see how he managed to do his shoulder, but it must have been one almighty blow, as his earlier tackle on Crichton was huge ....
 

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Herbert Moran (7)
trouble with grading is always trying to ensure there is no "bye" . so even numbers, and also working out if it is just about the 1st XV comp, or is more about across the age range depth, playing numbers, etc

oh well I guess .. that is why there is no easy fix

I would like to see something like

Division 1
Newington, Joeys, Riverview, Scots, Shore, Kings, plus top 2 CAS teams

and with ability of schools to be relegated to Division 2 or brought up to Division 1

oh well see what happens

Is that Buckling kid (from Shore) gone? I didn't see how he managed to do his shoulder, but it must have been one almighty blow, as his earlier tackle on Crichton was huge ..


Would be superb to see a Div 1 and 2, 2 rounds, promotion / relegation etc.......but will never happen. Great shame.
 
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Wowsah

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trouble with grading is always trying to ensure there is no "bye" . so even numbers, and also working out if it is just about the 1st XV comp, or is more about across the age range depth, playing numbers, etc

oh well I guess .. that is why there is no easy fix

I would like to see something like

Division 1
Newington, Joeys, Riverview, Scots, Shore, Kings, plus top 2 CAS teams

and with ability of schools to be relegated to Division 2 or brought up to Division 1

oh well see what happens

Is that Buckling kid (from Shore) gone? I didn't see how he managed to do his shoulder, but it must have been one almighty blow, as his earlier tackle on Crichton was huge ..

He's a pretty tough customer, you would put money on him being back.
 
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BKR4

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Interesting to see the referee for Shore vs Newington this weekend- Nigel Owens.

Hopefully should ensure the game is free-flowing, and complaints about the ref are kept to a minimum.

Hopefully.
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How do you know this?
 
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BKR4

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Just read Fred Clark's report from Saturday's Shore vs. Scots fixture, what a load of crap. While Scots were indeed dominant across the park, to say that they demonstrated discipline is rubbish. Scots continually infringed at the ruck with many players off their feet using hands, and were warned twice by the referee. This denied the Shore lads any clean ball and resulted in countless turnovers. The referee failed to create an even contest and allowed the Scots boys to get away with murder at the breakdown! The two yellow cards came to far too late. Hardly "demonstrating immense discipline" with 10 penalties against Scots in the 2nd half.
 

Micheal

Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Is that Buckling kid (from Shore) gone? I didn't see how he managed to do his shoulder, but it must have been one almighty blow, as his earlier tackle on Crichton was huge ..

It's been an ongoing problem for him this season. He chipped a piece of his shoulder bone in Shore's internal trials (in the biggest schoolboy hit I have ever seen) and has just padded it up and played through it so far this season. He put on some huge hits in the opening plays of the Scots game and I'm sure that had some impact upon it. Still unsure whether he'll be playing this week - although the guy is as tough as they come - he's also been playing through two broken fingers and several huge headknocks.

As for Shore's performance on the weekend, it wasn't one of their best and hats off to Scots who played an amazing game (their structure impressed me immensely). Would have liked to see the ref penalise the Scots boys at the ruck a bit more as they seemed to be constantly infringing - he did end up issuing two yellow cards in the final stages of the game but it was already too late. That, combined with Shore's massive injury toll (8. Buckling, then his replacement 8. Fletcher, 4. Shepherd, 6. Cooke, 1. McCathy) really didn't help them. But lets not make excuses, Scots were obviously the far better team on the day and I'll be interested to see how they go in the upcoming rounds.
 
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