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Ted Fahey (11)
no - you were right originally. Joeys 12th were due to play "a Scots team" (grade undefined) but it seems that the game did not proceed and an internal 7s game was played. Joeys 11ths played Knox 7ths (and lost 5-10).
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It’s quite simple it’s called Rugby nous same have it some don’t…… such is life
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Vay Wilson (31)
Hello Rippa,
Yes, its a small Rugby season but even with that factor, changes and improvement can and do occur. Question is will they occur.
Mealsonwheels
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What about young Zach Fittler GPS better watch out for him in the next 2 years
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Billy Sheehan (19)
Rippa, FYI, the old 10 rounds wasn't the norm, I think it was only in play for about 10 years, prior to that ie 50+ years there was always a cross comp theme, which was far more telling than playing the same 5 teams over and over. I am still of the belief that playing other association schools tells more, and provides a better picture as to who is who, many will disapprove but I think it's proven that 1 association isn't way more dominant these days (nor always looking at the past).
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Billy Sheehan (19)
Hi L2S, As a Waves dad whose remaining boy at school plays league on Sunday with these 1ts XV Waves boys here's a few observations, which I am sure may attract some comments. I might add I was an old Wave school player so burn me if you feel the need, it's all fun here.
Playing league as an addition to school Rugby on a Sat, then playing league on a Sunday has it's benefits/short comings, IMO.
Here we go...
Benefits : League boys learn to tackle better, particularly 1 on 1 and head on.
They also learn to find the try line when getting near the line.
Downfalls : BUT league boys tend to HOG THE BALL, it's mine. mine, and ALL mine, until they are about to hit the ground then they look to pass.
They get into the habit of the "groovey" backhand flick pass when grabbed, ala Roosters Joey Manu (who can do it but school boy
accuracy is almost zero).
A lot of Rugby school boys play league these days for $contract reasons, and others just for the fun of it, whether we like it or not.
We lose most to league because the ARU is hopeless, just can't blame families who need the opportunity!
Study hard I say, and have a long term career option whatever that may be , as very few make it big.
But for the vast majority, and I think most will agree, Schoolboy Rugby is the best rugby, and passion, you will see, and the most rewarding rugby the boys will play.
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Peter Burge (5)
Are there TAS supporters in the group to give updates/commentary
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Watty Friend (18)
Everyone who plays Rugby Union or League or any sports has a practical understanding of the game however not everyone has the practical intelligence.
AroundTheAnkles
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I don’t believe that league players learn to be better tacklers and particularly not 1 on 1. It was true in the past but out dated now. Why? Because 1) Union patterns are quite different (less structure / more broken play) and, 2) league teaches poor technique (tendency to go high). As a keen watcher of junior school boy and junior club rugby I observe a very clear trend that the receivers of tackle red and yellow cards in Union games overwhelmingly play league as well. Make of that what you will.
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Chris McKivat (8)
Spot on WLF3. League boys do tend to have that bit extra when it comes to tackling and dynamic ball carrying.
The teams with a lot of league boys sometimes come unstuck at the breakdown when in possession. It's foreign to waste your energy coming into a ruck when your team has the ball. Having some great ball carriers in the backs, or in the backrow, who are league players is fantastic, but watch the teams who have great offensive breakdown ability to keep the ball.
Joeys currently use their fittest forwards (4, 6 and 7) to clean out almost every ruck with the bigger boys (1,3,5,8) doing the ball carrying, the same with the 13 cleaning out when the ball goes out wide. You might never otherwise notice these players but without them you can't keep the ball or be able to play the style of passing game they try to play. Kings have a similar set-up, as do Shore.
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Bob McCowan (2)
barker, shore, kings, joeys, knox to win this week.
minchmunch
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Personally I disagree with that statement. In league nowadays it's all about slowing down the ruck allowing the other team a slow play the ball. If you tackle around the legs it's sometimes not a dominant tackle in league which allows a quick play the ball and an advantage for the other team. Tackling in league is a lot more difficult due to there being a 10 metre gap between the attack and defence, this means you have to make 1 on 1 tackles more often as the defence is more spread out. That's why I thoroughly believe your statement is incorrect and wrong.
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Bob McCowan (2)
From what Im told hes only just turned 16 so young. I know he played Harold Matts for Manly Sea Eagles a year young and Manly have big wraps on him. From what I have also watched last few weeks his defence is great and very punishing at times. When he hits he really hits. A good rugby program will develop the kids well. In essence Leo, Zach and Finnlay are young and have time to develop.
From my conversations with the dads, both lads are looking to follow their fathers to Randwick.
AroundTheAnkles
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I watch on average 7 school boy union games across Saturday and Sunday every week. Right now I am watching a live stream of NSW U15 league trials. I can tell you who plays league when they are on a union field with near perfect accuracy, they tackle upright and have a tendency to go high. Perhaps it is the best technique for league but it is not the best technique for union. I will leave it for others to decide whether it is the best absolute technique or not but I would suggest that if your technique causes you to cop regular red and yellow cards then you have issues to work on. League defence is definitely different but that doesn't mean better. Keep in mind that there is more than a 10m gap off a lineout and at least that much off a scrum, I really don't think league players have been better tacklers for a long time. Joeys had the legendary Br Bede as a specialist defence coach (and 4 unit math teacher) from the early 80's and by the mid 90's Macqueen had recruited in league specialists to strengthen up defence.
loudnproudscotsdaddy
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Personally coming from a keen rugby coordinator and coach and previous scout, I love to recruit league players to union, especially in the backs. Their toughness in defence is unmatched and their capability to make one on one tackles is what scouts and coaches like me love to see in backs nowadays. Union players are very technical with tackling with can be good whether league players go all in. I disagree with this statement also as I find it quite particularly league players have more mungrel and always have a dig no matter the team. #BRINGBACKTHEBIFF.
Mealsonwheels
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100% agree with you so much more mongrel in league in our days.
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Darby Loudon (17)
OlderSlower & Joker,
Br Bede taught me how to tackle AND taught me 4 Unit Maths. What a brilliant man he was! Incredibly fit in his later years and always able to demonstrate the correct technique to immobilise another rugby player. He was very good at giving players the confidence to make tackles through correct positioning and technique.
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Br Bede taught me how to tackle AND taught me 4 Unit Maths. What a brilliant man he was! Incredibly fit in his later years and always able to demonstrate the correct technique to immobilise another rugby player. He was very good at giving players the confidence to make tackles through correct positioning and technique.
Cheers
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