NSW AAGPS 2020

[Scrumcap]

Yes TME, the 16As was a great match (for View supporters), they won 31-12. The Joeys team were good, but View out played them in the centers and out wide particularly imho. Defense was decent from the whole team.

The difference may have been from Joeys pulling more of their 16As into the opens, but thats just speculation?

Joeys from what I seen had no more elevated into opens then Barrett in 2nds and Jorgenson in 1st, as was the case in the trial game A few weeks back. Riverview on the other hand had their no. 10 playing firsts from the trial. In the 3rds I am told the 5,7,9 and one of the wingers (not sure which one) are all U16s and have been in opens from the start of the year.
Riverview have simply improved in this age group. The two new boys I am told are both expatriates who landed by chance at View from COVID homecomings. I am told they are the outside centre In 16as and the no. 10 who played 1st Yesterday.
It is just a case of the gap between early developers in 13s and 14s closing. View just simply deserve a pat on the back for improving.

 

[Scrumcap]

They would normally would have had the Jorgenson twins, but they play 10 in the 2nd XV and 13 in the 1st XV. They would very handy to this team. Plus the 1st XV is playing up an age group as well.

The Jorgenson’s are twins. The 10 in the 2nds is in yr12 (U18s) and the 13 in the 1sts is in yr10 (U16s).

 

[Scrumcap]

I mean aren’t twins.

 

[Ace Ventura]

They would normally would have had the Jorgenson twins, but they play 10 in the 2nd XV and 13 in the 1st XV. They would very handy to this team. Plus the 1st XV is playing up an age group as well.

not twins - Jake (2nd XV No10) is in Yr12 and Max (1st XV No13) in Yr10

 

[Ace Ventura]

not twins - Jake (2nd XV No10) is in Yr12 and Max (1st XV No13) in Yr10

beat me to it Scrumcap!

 

[Quick Hands]

Some results from Stanmore yesterday. Even though the firsts lost to a very good Kings team, they were in the game for a long time. With so many Year 10 and 11 boys it's a promising outlook for the future.

1sts Kings def Newington 14-29
2nds Kings def Newington 19-22
3rds Kings def Newington 10-12
4ths Kings def Newington 0-31
5ths Newington def Kings 48-12

16A Newington def Kings 54-7
16B Newington def Kings 28-7
16C Newington def Kings 22-7

15A Kings def Newington 0-45
15B Kings def Newington 26-33
15C Newington def Kings 55-19

14A Newington def Kings 26-14
14B Kings def Newington5-43
14C Newington def Kings 33-28

13A Newington def Kings 43-17
13B Newington def Kings 45-12

I understand that Newington won 13C-13F

 

[Joker]

Strong 16's age group Quickie.
BTW. Did you capture the photo that was being taken to commemorate the occasion?
Love to see it.

 

[Quick Hands]

 

[SkyBlue]

Evening.

It is becoming increasingly evident that the the likes of Barker, Waverley and possibly even Knox are increasingly closing the gap and are now able to match it with the GPS schools (especially Waverley and Barker). Furthermore, Shore are descending further into the abyss and are becoming closer and closer to that of Grammar and Sydney Boys. It is quite clear that these competitions need to be merged in the best interest of rugby.

I see a tier 1 division made up of:
- Joeys
- View
- Newington
- Kings
- Scots
- Barker
- Waverley

A tier 2 division made up of:
- Shore
- Knox
- Trinity
- Cranbrook
- Stannies
- St. Augustines

Tier 3:
- SBHS
- Grammar
- Aloys
- Pius
- Oakhill
etc...

I would imagine there would also be a relegation system in place. This would definitely make for a much more exciting rugby schoolboy competition, would be safer for some of those less rugby driven schools and would probably best stimulate the development of our juniors meaning hopefully a stronger Wallabies team etc.

Thoughts?

 

[Joker]

wow!!!
That is wonderful
Credit to the schools involved
Thank you for sharing

 

[Joker]

Evening.

It is becoming increasingly evident that the the likes of Barker, Waverley and possibly even Knox are increasingly closing the gap and are now able to match it with the GPS schools (especially Waverley and Barker). Furthermore, Shore are descending further into the abyss and are becoming closer and closer to that of Grammar and Sydney Boys. It is quite clear that these competitions need to be merged in the best interest of rugby.

I see a tier 1 division made up of:
- Joeys
- View
- Newington
- Kings
- Scots
- Barker
- Waverley

A tier 2 division made up of:
- Shore
- Knox
- Trinity
- Cranbrook
- Stannies
- St. Augustines

Tier 3:
- SBHS
- Grammar
- Aloys
- Pius
- Oakhill
etc.

I would imagine there would also be a relegation system in place. This would definitely make for a much more exciting rugby schoolboy competition, would be safer for some of those less rugby driven schools and would probably best stimulate the development of our juniors meaning hopefully a stronger Wallabies team etc.

Thoughts?

No

 

[Eyes and Ears]

This depends on whether your school assessment is based on 1st XV or school depth or number of teams. Plus I think your premise that Shore Rugby is falling down to the level of Grammar and High is way off the mark.

 

[Masked Crusader]

don't think the Cluch video picked it up, but Joeys had arguably their best forward in the bin from the 57 min mark (using the cluch time), and their captain off for the whole of the 2nd half (severely bruised ribs - he could hardly breathe).

Which player was in the bin and what for?

 

[Masked Crusader]

No

No interest. It would be the death of rugby in the same way expanding super rugby has been. It is the traditions and tribalism that makes school rugby special. Possibly a conference system could develop to allow AAGPS to 2 to play off against top 2 from other comps post season.

 

[brumbiesrugby]

Burns, the hooker. Not sure what it was for.

 

[Rob hart]

Evening.

It is becoming increasingly evident that the the likes of Barker, Waverley and possibly even Knox are increasingly closing the gap and are now able to match it with the GPS schools (especially Waverley and Barker). Furthermore, Shore are descending further into the abyss and are becoming closer and closer to that of Grammar and Sydney Boys. It is quite clear that these competitions need to be merged in the best interest of rugby.

I see a tier 1 division made up of:
- Joeys
- View
- Newington
- Kings
- Scots
- Barker
- Waverley

A tier 2 division made up of:
- Shore
- Knox
- Trinity
- Cranbrook
- Stannies
- St. Augustines

Tier 3:
- SBHS
- Grammar
- Aloys
- Pius
- Oakhill
etc.

I would imagine there would also be a relegation system in place. This would definitely make for a much more exciting rugby schoolboy competition, would be safer for some of those less rugby driven schools and would probably best stimulate the development of our juniors meaning hopefully a stronger Wallabies team etc.

Thoughts?

I have a bet on the Shore Scots game every year with my father in law a Shore old boy a bottle of current vintage St Henri, we drink it five years after each season with the score on the label its mothers milk....... my two brothers in law are from a CAS school........ we never share the St Henri as he says ''they are not worthy'' agree with joker its a no from me......

 

[Up the Guts]

Evening.

It is becoming increasingly evident that the the likes of Barker, Waverley and possibly even Knox are increasingly closing the gap and are now able to match it with the GPS schools (especially Waverley and Barker). Furthermore, Shore are descending further into the abyss and are becoming closer and closer to that of Grammar and Sydney Boys. It is quite clear that these competitions need to be merged in the best interest of rugby.

I see a tier 1 division made up of:
- Joeys
- View
- Newington
- Kings
- Scots
- Barker
- Waverley

A tier 2 division made up of:
- Shore
- Knox
- Trinity
- Cranbrook
- Stannies
- St. Augustines

Tier 3:
- SBHS
- Grammar
- Aloys
- Pius
- Oakhill
etc.

I would imagine there would also be a relegation system in place. This would definitely make for a much more exciting rugby schoolboy competition, would be safer for some of those less rugby driven schools and would probably best stimulate the development of our juniors meaning hopefully a stronger Wallabies team etc.

Thoughts?

Shore 16s ran up 28 points in a victory over Joeys and defeated Newington a couple of weeks ago who just put 50 on Kings. Thanks but no thanks.

 

[SkyBlue]

Look it's clear there is a stigma around CAS rugby, there is a belief that CAS rugby is a joke amongst GPS schools and I would know as I myself attended a GPS school. However, I have been involved in both and I can assure you, the rugby program at Barker and at Waverley trumps that of any GPS school other than St Josephs. It's this "elitism" that will ultimately ruin school boy rugby. The GPS is not as dominant as it once was. It is in the best interest of rugby union in Australia to combine these competitions.

 

[Ace Ventura]

Which player was in the bin and what for?

Paddy Burns - Joeys No2 - for a lifting tackle in the maul (marginal call IMHO)

 

[SkyBlue]

Be very careful Goosie. You’re playing a very dangerous game, risking upsetting people.

It's a conversation worth having